Lissandra New Passive + DH = One person dies in Team fight and Lissandra gets triple kill

5050BS·Nov 7, 2018·4 votes·1,904 views

So the damage on it is way too high. The base and the scaling. For a Passive this thing can do 1000s of damage.

[New] Iceborn Subjugation (Passive) Tooltip: "When an enemy champion dies near Lissandra they become a Frozen Thrall. Frozen Thralls seek out living enemies, slowing their movement speed when nearby by 25%. After 4 seconds, Frozen Thralls shatter from the intense cold, Dealing [120 - 520] (+30% AP) magic damage." Full damage value: [120/140/160/180/200/220/240/260/280/300/320/340/370/400/430/460/490/520]

I played with the new DH and was getting Triple kills just by killing one person (or even just having them die near me)

I got 44 stacks because any time there was 2+ enemies I would get 2+ DH procs and or kills.

Was CRAZY.

8 Comments

Agent CorgiNov 7, 20182 votes

Not sure why you're being downvoted, but I think the New Dark Harvest might be playing a big role here. After watching Mid Mordekaiser's montage with that Rune, I'm thoroughly convinced that rune is going to be nutty.

As for Lissandra's New Passive, they nerfed the damage on her [W] & [R] to compensate for the damage her passive brings. We got another 2 weeks before this patch goes out, so they might change it from now until her changes go live (which could either be in patch 8.23 or be held until 8.24 for further testing).

5050BSNov 7, 20183 votes

IKR

The DH is only part of it. The Passive it self does ~700 AOE (a big AOE) and its for each Frozen statue. DH is just icing.

wolviusNov 7, 20182 votes

Something i noticed from watching professor akali get a Penta is that sometimes an dead ally can turn into a thrall. The damage is going to have to be tuned down just loook at that Aoe damage. https://youtu.be/B8jTPYlUNBE?t=982 If you look closely you can she a thrall with leona shield.

Edit: did i just see two aatrox thralls as well.

Hovering HentaiNov 7, 20181 votes

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Something i noticed from watching professor akali get a Penta is that sometimes an dead ally can turn into a thrall https://youtu.be/B8jTPYlUNBE?t=982

There was a Lissandra on the other team......

wolviusNov 7, 20181 votes

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There was a Lissandra on the other team......

ohh... I guess having two liss in same game will make it difficult to tell the thralls apart.

Hovering HentaiNov 7, 20183 votes

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ohh... I guess having two liss in same game will make it difficult to tell the thralls apart.

Yea - doesn't help they're both using the same kin so the Thralls look exactly the same. Riot should probably make them easier to identify before releasing.

The IcebornNov 7, 20181 votes

There is some nerfs and buffs coming to Lissandra but keep in mind, with the average movement speed enemies should be able to escape her zombies so if you dont stand there waiting you shouldnt be damaged by the zombie... And yes the AOE is big but again you literally can escape it theyre slow enough.., The Key is not to just stand around but to run as soon as the first zombie appears, dont clunk up in groups and Liss wont be doing much

CylaxK2Nov 7, 20181 votes

Dark harvest is the problem not lissandra. Because you can check up on Liss players she is way weaker now in 1v1 situations and her teamfightint hasne't gone over the the moon since they introduced the new passive. The thralls are slow and + for introducing that passive she got hit in her scalings on her ult and W + a 50 base damage decrease. I really don't like that riot is just putting her off as a off-tank and hiving her more base damage and weaker scalings.