Kat pisses me off

Estrogen Rider··7 votes·2,559 views

Give Kat mana or energy costs or something. Make it so that she has to spend resources in order to 100-0 the entire team.

A champion with INSTANT 700 range gap closer with free resets and free manaless pokes is extremely toxic to the game. I don't care if you have one CC or not; her QWE does more enough damage for the ult to even matter.

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Laughing Fish6 votes

She is a glass cannon. She deals brutal multi-person damage, but cannot survive actually taking any hits. She is a balanced champion.

causeimdabatman1 votes

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She is a glass cannon. She deals brutal multi-person damage, but cannot survive actually taking any hits. She is a balanced champion.

can't survive actually taking hits as she 1v5 pentas with all her retests and her spell vamp that instantly brings her to full hp after ever qew

Laughing Fish6 votes

If she is allowed to do that, than your team is doing terrible. She is not THAT hard to counter.

causeimdabatman1 votes

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If she is allowed to do that, than your team is doing terrible. She is not THAT hard to counter.

You must be bronze huh?

Laughing Fish4 votes

So if I am better at adapting to champions, than I must be worse than you?

causeimdabatman1 votes

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So if I am better at adapting to champions, than I must be worse than you?

Just because she's 1v5 pentaing doesn't mean your team is doing terrible. and IT IS that hard to counter her because she can just e out of anything and qewr and get all her health back.

Laughing Fish4 votes

And this is why you fail. Once you decide that a champion cannot be killed, you will not be able to kill him/her. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Being Toxic will always sabotage your team.

Hyrum Graff3 votes

If she saves her E to escape, she shouldn't have the damage to kill someone.

If your team is smart and buys a defensive item, she'll need her ult to get a kill. When she ults, there's time to CC and kill her before she gets the reset to escape.

Kuroi862 votes

You really don't understand her resets do you.

If she E' into a fight yet is unable to score a kill or assist, her E remains on cooldown for 12 / 10.5 / 9 / 7.5 / 6. And this isn't the first ability she maxes so it will be mid/late game before she can do that. Simply put, if she doesn't get a kill, she's as good as dead because Leona can burst her to more than half health.

Estrogen Rider3 votes

She can dance around the battlefield moreso than Riven. Except she has 700 range gap closers and is INSTANT.

Epilogue of Life2 votes

But Riven has 5-man execute, AD scaling shield, and a better lore...

Orbv1 votes

How is she dancing around the battlefield? Has she killed someone? Did it takes at least 2 seconds of ulting to do that as well as her shunpo and dancing blades? Then someone seriously did not care to notice her diving the weakest person on your team. She should not be shunpo-ing more than once unless you openly let her jump your support/adc.

Hyrum Graff4 votes

Agreed that she's balanced -- doesn't mean she's fun to play against.

Laughing Fish2 votes

See I can respect that. I hate playing against Gnar, but I don't claim he is broken just because I don't like him.

Der Lindwurm5 votes

Kat has no stealth, no CC (she can't even slow you), and no untargetability. If she bothers you that much, just kill her.

If nobody on your whole team can stop her, then it's either a serious flaw with your team composition or your team is just plain terrible and any champion played well would own you just as much.

Estrogen Rider3 votes

"if she bothers you that much, just kill her" - that's a funny and bizarre argument.

But you make a good point though, nobody in their right mind has ever thought of... killing champions, because it's not like killing them will put them out of play for 30-60 seconds, will grant you a hefty amount of gold, will cause the other champion to lose CS, etc.

SeCKS Egai2 votes

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Kat has no stealth, no CC (she can't even slow you), and no untargetability. If she bothers you that much, just kill her.

If nobody on your whole team can stop her, then it's either a serious flaw with your team composition or your team is just plain terrible and any champion played well would own you just as much.

Truth. I hate the general idea of resourceless champions (every champ is stuck with cds, not everyone has a secondary resource). However, there are reliable strategies to deal with her and that spin to win can easily mean feast or famine.

Estrogen Rider2 votes

Disgusting, don't you think?

Kuroi862 votes

I don't care if you have one CC or not; her QWE does more enough damage for the ult to even matter.

GO HOME! YOU'RE DRUNK!!!

Leblancs Boob1 votes

Her kit in general is poorly designed in my opinion.. . That being said she's perfectly balanced. She loses most matchups. Her poke is weak, her damage outside of her ult is just pathetic, her waveclear is subpar at best, and her ult is hilariously easy to counter.. but... that passive though

Epilogue of Life1 votes

Her poke is weak...except its costless and point-and-click and it bounces...

DoubleDammit1 votes

Champions with manaless poke:

Kennen Akali Gnar Katarina Rek'Sai Shen Zed Rumble Aatrox Lee Sin

Champions bads like to complain about:

Akali Gnar Katarina Rek'Sai Zed Lee Sin Syndra (for good reason)

If you complain about resource-free harassing, you should also complain about your sandy vagina and your extra chromosome.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

If the first half of Akali's Q is considered poke...I don't even wanna continue this conversation anymore...and just fyi, champs like Zed and Akali use energy, and they run out at critical moments--it's a large part of the counterplays to these champions, go in as soon as they run themselves out of energy.

DoubleDammit1 votes

Oh don't get me wrong I don't think resourceless champions are broken (besides Gnar due to his heavy CC/free regen from ulting), Kat struggles so hard early game I can't even be mad that she gets to wreck under certain conditions

Epilogue of Life1 votes

While she gets bullied, she is hard to actually kill, and it doesn't take that much for her to get going, especially late game.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

Remove item 3157 from game, problem solved. Once you hit her with something, its GG for that bitch.

AnonymousZao1 votes

As someone who loves to play full AP Morgana, I enjoy shutting down Kat's all the time. Let her start her ult, E + Q + W + R, interrupted her ult, she can't move, you're shielded and if you activate item 3157 while you're ult is going off you're doing tons of damage, taking no hits, and once your item 3157 is up your ult should end and now everyone in range, if they are still alive, is stunned. Now your Q should be just about off CD and you and your team can starting cleaning up.

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