When Riot released Volibear and I saw him for the first time

dEAdbUs·Nov 24, 2015·1 votes·852 views

I was talking with my brother about how Riot is balancing game, about LCS big plays, mobility assassins meta and he said: "I remember when Riot released Volibear and I saw him for the first time in official spotlight. He had only few HP while enemy Gankplank had full HP. Voli just threw him and killed. My first thought was "this is so OP".

It was OP in the past, now it's an official game policy. Fiora, Riven, Zed - that's what they want us to play.

18 Comments

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20156 votes

thats why riven has a 40% winrate. Or zed not close to 50. Not even fiora ( the best out of them). Could you guys stop being stupid? Its like every tank main here cries about assasins and fighters no matter how low their winrates are. Fucking stop already. Its not the game that its on fault if you lose with a 60% winrate champion against a 40% winrate champion, at this point its just completly retarded to make this threads, god.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

It's a preseason mate, give them time. Chill out. I'm talking about global things, not about just one patch. I'm maining Talon, btw.

And, main thing - I didn't say that is bad.

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20154 votes

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It's a preseason mate, give them time. Chill out. I'm talking about global things, not about just one patch. I'm maining Talon, btw.

Still you find the time to cry about them right now. Like whats wrong with you, its like witchhunting without a reason. " oh these champions are not complete trash all season long ( they never hit 50% winrate, dont worry) so riot just wants us to permanently pick them!!! UPVOTE ME!" Stop, seriously. Its not like riven was a really strong pick for what, 3 seasons? There were always picks that were a lot easier to play and rewarded you more. Zed was nerfed more then Irelia over the time, like arguing that riot wants to force him down our throat is retarded as well. Fiora was reworked and was too strong, she is worked on all the time. Meanwhile tanks ALWAYS had over 50% winrate for the whole last season ( even the braindead champs like malphite ). I really dont know where the mentality comes from that riot loves assasins or fighters, its pretty much the other way round for over a season.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Without reason? I'm maining toplane for two seasons. I know enough about Riven. The only reasons why Riven wasn't popular before - Ryze who was kicking sh%t out of her. When he's gone it's her time.

About tanks: please compare pickrates of tanks on toplane and Irelia/Riven. As I remember Riven/Irelia was picked in 50% of all games in Plat+ elo. With 50%+ winrate. Whole damn season.

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20152 votes

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Without reason? I'm maining toplane for two seasons. I know enough about Riven. The only reasons why Riven wasn't popular before - Ryze who was kicking sh%t out of her. When he's gone it's her time.

About tanks: please compare pickrates of tanks on toplane and Irelia/Riven. As I remember Riven/Irelia was picked in 50% of all games in Plat+ elo. With 50%+ winrate. Whole damn season.

Riven was op...but never hit over 50% winrate before 90+ games with her while other champions did that with 20 avg games? Because...of ryze? Oh boy I guess I am done here, ryze btw is a pretty easy matchup even before his rework. Rivens pickrate is high, her winrate is shit and never was good for not mains, other champions hit 60% winrate when mastered, riven never came close to that level, she was an average and always easyly counterable pick on toplane. I personally never had any problems with Irelia no matter what I picked toplane, I have to agree that irelia is too easy to learn and to play effectivly but she never was overwhelming like darius or things like that.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Ryze wasn't easy matchup before he get heavy nerfs.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

You have 60% winrate on Riven. Wtf 40% are you talking about? xD

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20153 votes

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You have 60% winrate on Riven. Wtf 40% are you talking about? xD

I have a higher winrate, the average riven player has a 43,8 % winrate right now.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

Riven is one of the worst champions in the game statistically right now. What is your point again?

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Statistically nobody playing Riven right now, because they have Graves and Yasuo. So numbers right now mean nothing.

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20153 votes

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Statistically nobody playing Riven right now, because they have Graves and Yasuo. So numbers right now mean nothing.

And no thats not correct, her playrate is pretty high at the moment, because guess what, people have fun with her kit, majority of the people would like to play a trash champ with interesting kit instead overpowered boring things ( like darius). You really are trying to somehow justify your opinion and it really isnt working well. As I said, obviously facts cant change your mind so Ill just ignore this thread from now on, have a nice day.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

I like how you talk for other people (and decide what they like), and minus my every answer. Best way to prove YOUR opinion I guess.

Btw I was wrong about pickrate, I accept it, but this doesn't make you right.

Mr Broken WingsNov 24, 20152 votes

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I like how you talk for other people (and decide what they like), and minus my every answer. Best way to prove YOUR opinion I guess.

Btw I was wrong about pickrate, I accept it, but this doesn't make you right.

"all your facts are pointless, I am still right, even though I have 0 evidence and have no arguments".

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Facts? You showed damn preseason numbers, time of year when Riot shaking game balance, while topic was about global direction of game. I was comparing what game was before, and where is it going. But you decided to start another Riven war.

Yeah I don't like Riven, but main point was about Riven-like-make-penta-with-0-hp gameplay style, not about Riven personally.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

You just ruined my topic damn Riven mainer. It was about nostalgy, but all you care is about Riven winrate. If you think that made you good or smart, then good luck!

TikailNov 24, 20153 votes

Riven currently has an overall 44% winrate, making her one of the lowest ranked champs in the game. This patch has been brutal on AD casters and dropped most of them out of viability for the right-click AS meta. Yasuo is the only AD caster that is still flourishing because his passive was specifically catered to in this patch turning him into god tier.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Whatever! This post wasn't about Riven, this post was about game direction. But if you like Riven, then Riot doing everything right.

Btw check this guy witnrate: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Mr+Broken+Wings You guys like talk much about winrate, but sometimes numbers mean not much. Riven is still playable.

TikailNov 24, 20151 votes

You mention Riven in your original post, a Riven main with a 60% winrate comes in a corrects you, you view his winrate as applicable to every Riven player, and then you try to strawman your way out of your ill-informed comments.

Numbers are everything in this game, especially more so in this patch where certain numbers have become unmanageably high quite literally invalidating every other pick in lanes.

By your logic, Faker's winrate with Ryze, Olaf, Azir, and Kassadin (100% on all) are perfectly circumspect to how powerful the champs are, except none of those champs are considered viable picks right now and all have less than a 48% winrate.

dEAdbUsNov 24, 20151 votes

Read Riot posts pls about balance where they saying that number ARE NOT everything. Here is specially for you: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/data-and-champion-balance-part-1

And again, topic wasn't about Riven and her winrate. It was about VOLIBEAR. Read it again pls.