As of Darius's release, his bleed is still bugged to not do 5 ticks of damage at 1-3 stacks.

IsIsGankedParis·Jun 27, 2015·43 votes·2,697 views

How long are we going to have to endure this bias of Darius Riot?

When Darius got his ult nerfed, people said give him his full reset at level 16, this just happens this year.

A few days ago there's a thread asking for kayle buffs, next day she has a buff.

Kennen is being used in LCS and is fine yet gets a buff.

Like how fucking long do we have to wait for Darius to have his bugs fixed and actually looked at? This bias is fucking unreal.

Lee Sin gets good treatment because of his fanbase, Darius's fanbase doesn't mean shit to Riot as it isn't as large.

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Emperor TimeJun 27, 201520 votes

The kenned buff was a tooltip error, his stun was always 1.25 seconds. The more you know!

Dunkrius2gJun 27, 20158 votes

I think Riot is planning on bringing his new rework and once they do that, they will eventually fix his long bleed bug. The main thing that makes me cri is that he has so many bugs and clarity issues that needs fixing.

1: His passive is not in line with the New Combat system.

2: Bleed not dealing full damage.

3: Majority of the times you pull someone in, you can't auto attack but you will if you leave it alone for 2-3 seconds and by then, the enemy runs.

4: Darius's bleed damage is listed as X damage over 5 seconds, but one thing is that they don't show how much it'll deal in total. (Very minor but still a clarity issue)

5: His attack speed used to not work but thank Rito that they fixed it.

6: Sometimes, his ult does not reset, even though he is Lv16 and deals the finishing blow.

7: If only they can add an execution marker over their opponents so that you can actually deal killing blow. Something they should tbh.

8: When you pull someone, you stun them now for 1-2 seconds. (A buff but still a bug). If they can fix all this, I'll be happy.

When? I could care less if it happens next year, I just want that Riot acknowledges that Darius has these problems and that they will eventually fix it.

Patience...even though it has been some time.

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20151 votes

4: Darius's bleed damage is listed as X damage over 5 seconds, but one thing is that they don't show how much it'll deal in total. (Very minor but still a clarity issue)

see the way you say this means that X could be the total damage done over 5 seconds.When what your implying is X damage done every second over 5 seconds.

6: Sometimes, his ult does not reset, even though he is Lv16 and deals the finishing blow

see this one has been bugging me cause it works fine win I kill them with my ult but not with any other means...now I have had times where if you attacked them with the ult but they died from something else at the same time you hit them with your ult you dont get the kill but the ult resets.

3: Majority of the times you pull someone in, you can't auto attack but you will if you leave it alone for 2-3 seconds and by then, the enemy runs. 8: When you pull someone, you stun them now for 1-2 seconds. (A buff but still a bug). If they can fix all this, I'll be happy.

now this is really a tricky bug. see what I do is proc W while I use Pull so get the slow off when I pull even if I cant attack for say 2-3 seconds I can cast spells during that time. now the pull bug helps easy this a little cause I cant auto and they cant move sure they have at best 1 second lead but that about enough with the slow to put them at the edge of my axe spin. giving me a lot damage done. I think the problem for bug eight is along the lines of say a thresh lantern pull. when you grab the lantern your character is moved/displaced during the animation. so whats cause the stun is the characters are still in the Displaced/Moved animation while the animation itself is actually already done. like say animation last 1second, but the pull last 2-3 seconds. meaning that anyone pulled is still being told there being pulled. while the while you just sit there taking damage. its either that or a case of jet lag/whip lash.

Silents429Jun 27, 20154 votes

A few days ago there's a thread asking for kayle buffs, next day she has a buff.

She has been on the radar for awhile now, and recently got nerfs, and they are currently trying to fix her.

Kennen is being used in LCS and is fine yet gets a buff.

And..? Also it's a tooltip bug fix, nothing actually changed.

Like how fucking long do we have to wait for Darius to have his bugs fixed and actually looked at? This bias is fucking unreal.

How long are we going to have to endure this bias of Darius Riot?

What bias? He got changes this season, and Meddler has said a dozen times he is getting more before the end of the year.

When Darius got his ult nerfed, people said give him his full reset at level 16, this just happens this year.

Because he is oppressive in lane, and it takes a lot more careful thought to get him balanced correctly.

Loken StoneheartJun 27, 20151 votes

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She has been on the radar for awhile now, I don't think the threads had anything to do with it since Meddler will normally comment if they are influenced by it.

And..?

What bias? He got changes this season, and Meddler has said a dozen times he is getting more before the end of the year.

Probably because his ult is a fucking execute that can deal massive true damage, and I can't believe you are actually complaining about a buff occurring in the first place.

Reminder that Rek'Sai's Truedamage is honestly just as impressive as Darius's ult, but on a significantly lower CD (making up for the lower/lack-of base damage. And it doesn't require ramping up in a fight, allowing the escape of the enemy. And its on a champion with mobility. And that champion STILL HAS AN ULT.

Can't believe we still fkin' cry about Darius. Rek'sai is just hypermobile resourceless super Darius.

Silents429Jun 27, 20151 votes

It has higher potential, but only if Rek Sai is going full AD.

With the way they are both commonly built, Darius will still outdamage.

Loken StoneheartJun 27, 20151 votes

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It has higher potential, but only if Rek Sai is going full AD.

With the way they are both commonly built, Darius will still outdamage.

Yeah but Rek's is such a stupid low CD.

Silents429Jun 27, 20151 votes

But. It requires her to have full fury to use in the first place. If say Rek Sai has 200 AD, and she does a max rank E, with full fury she will only do 680 true damage, this is the BASE damage of Darius ult, which completely gets refunded if it kills the target. And still has the additional DOT damage, along with scaling off of 150% of his AD.

Loken StoneheartJun 27, 20151 votes

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But. It requires her to have full fury to use in the first place. If say Rek Sai has 200 AD, and she does a max rank E, with full fury she will only do 680 true damage, this is the BASE damage of Darius ult, which completely gets refunded if it kills the target. And still has the additional DOT damage, along with scaling off of 150% of his AD.

Yes. His ult does DOT damage, requires NO ramp up, and is on a potential like 20 second max CD. All true points. 100%.

Dunkrius2gJun 27, 20151 votes

Im sorry but dont look no further. Olaf true damage is basically the same as Darius's no stacks ult. Only difference is you have health cost.

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20151 votes

only diffence is lower cooldown and really really hard pain in my side as a darius top... true damage at lvl 1 if you want.... ohhh why cho do you get true damage before lvl 6? Chogath No but what about you Darius your super strong do you get true damage before lvl 6? Darius No and what about the other champs. do any of you get true damage before lvl 6? Velkoz yes. MasterYi yes. summoner 14 Blitz could you um deal with the trouble maker for me thanks. your the best support. Blitzcrank summoner 4 summoner 3 (BlitzBot2000 has slain BlazeKing) now that that's out of the way..... Warwick summoner 11 uhhhhhhhhhhh...... Blitz we got another one... why aren't you warding to keep this from happening.....what ever could you just take care of it. (Double Kill) (BlitzBot2000 has slain IamJungl3) Thanks again Blitz you do me proud. now as I was saying not to many champs are as strong as Olaf and he shouldn't be able to do so much true damage.

BorblandJun 27, 20154 votes

Darius is a terror against other melee tops, and an innocent and harmless kitty against ranged tops.

His binary gameplay makes him hard to balance, at release he was extremly powerful and stayed OP for very long. After more mobile champs came out and he got nerfed, he finally was fine. His playrate still isnt as bad as other nerfed champs we can see sometimes (Elise, Evelynn, Kha'Zix etc.)

The bugs though, have to be corrected, but I dont think he'll need other buffs or nerfs

hashinshinJun 27, 20151 votes

Yeah, if only Darius's pull had a lower animation time with longer range so he had a fair game against ranged champions!

no wait, he did use to have that. And he did have a fair laning phase against range and melee. But then Riot for no reason decided to chomp down on his laning phase against range so he had an artificial weakness.

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20151 votes

sorry about the winrate/playrate as a darius main I dont turn my back or expose my neck so I end up wining every time I play him with only like one loss out of every like 10 games I play with him.

TheHypeGokuJun 27, 20153 votes

Darius' fanbase doesn't mean sh*t to anyone, mostly because a lot of Darius players can be pretty toxic. Play a different champ while you wait. I understand you main the guy but if you're really good then you can pick up and learn a new champion in no time. I mean, Riot keeps making champs that you can master in two games anyways.

Loken StoneheartJun 28, 20152 votes

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Darius' fanbase doesn't mean sh*t to anyone, mostly because a lot of Darius players can be pretty toxic. Play a different champ while you wait. I understand you main the guy but if you're really good then you can pick up and learn a new champion in no time. I mean, Riot keeps making champs that you can master in two games anyways.

Same with Yi (more so, one of the top 3 most toxic playerbases imo). But they're buffing the living hell out of him.

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20152 votes

I'm not toxic. and I main both Yi and Darius. now the Marksmans...OOHHH lord they are some serious toxic people there.

Left Hook LarryJun 28, 20151 votes

How do you main Yi and Darius? WTF

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20151 votes

Darius is for Top Lane and Yi is for Jungle. so if some one takes a my top lane I can still Take the Jungle.

EmollientNut0Jun 28, 20151 votes

I hate to have to agree on the subject, but Darius players are consistently hilariously toxic. Lane bully = bully?

Dunkrius2gJun 29, 20151 votes

If you play with me and I am Darius and you are my jger. You will love that game. Not all are toxic. If I do take the kill, you can have my cs for your help. If I you take kill, then I wouldn't care much. It just means that I get half a kill's worth of gold and he loses 1 wave or 2.

WolfBVJun 27, 20152 votes

Ooh, I really wanna try a darius vs quinn lane now.

SlowChemicalJun 27, 20151 votes

The misinformation here is even unrealer

yamimoshJun 27, 20151 votes

you ever tried to play quinn? yeah... darius isnt that bad tbh

A Miss FortuneJun 27, 20151 votes

To be honest I don't want Darius to get buffed just due to how toxic and easy his kit is. People say you can "just kite him" but even Fiora the "Grand Duelist" can't duel Darius, he just invalidates every melee champion except Irelia and Tryndamere in duels, and his pull can keep short ranged ADCs from kiting him. I don't like how people say that "you can kite Darius" as an excuse to buff him, I'm PRETTY SURE he has a pull that can pull more than person in. The range of the pull is actually as much as most ADCs have for their range. Not to mention the hitbox for his pull is worse than Morgana's Q so you can get pulled in without actually touching the axe.

I wouldn't really say fixing Darius's passive would be an actual buff, but it would make him stronger and I really don't think he's that bad of a champion. He does retarded damage with an ult doing 680 true damage that has like a 150% AD ratio, that also resets the cooldown if you kill someone AND the mana cost. I don't really see a reason to buff Darius if his only weakness is that he isn't the best teamfighter (he isn't the worse either) and you can kite him or some bs because people forget his pull is only outranged by Kog'Maw, Jinx, Caitlyn, and Tristana.

I also feel like Darius is the same way with Quinn. They both have bugs and in the past had even more bugs. They're largely considered unviable or not the best due to them, but if Quinn ever gets all of her bugfixes I would demand a nerf. She's a really strong ADC (Not a top laner or a jungler), her burst is really high, her blind lets her basically auto win any trades against any ADCs, Her ultimate is definitely underestimated but in the end, she's handicapped by her bugs. THAT STILL LET HER BACKFLIP OFF AN ENEMY BUT TELEPORT BEHIND THEM AND BACKFLIP INTO THEIR TURRET.

JuhnZeiFoxJun 28, 20151 votes

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