@Riot: any plans on reworking some old passives?

Dat cool kid·3/1/2016, 2:42:35 AM·5 votes·4,536 views

not that there is anything wrong with them, i just think they could be more in-depth and interesting. Examples: "abilities reduce his targets' magic resistance by 10 for 2.5 seconds" "basic attacks reduce 15 / 20 / 25 magic resistance from his targets for 3 seconds" "1% bonus attack speed per 1% of his missing health" "perpetually ghosted (moves through units) and takes 4 - 14 (based on level) less physical damage from basic attacks"

These have a similar problem as the old masteries, they are "hidden powers." Meaning you cant really see what they do (because they are just linear stat boosts). imo they just feel random/tacked on at the last minute and not truly contributing to the overall kit.

Its not a very big problem, but i just wanted to know if changing passives like these is/has been considered.

37 Comments

RiotMeddler3/1/2016, 7:58:48 AM11 votes

Fiddle we'll likely get to at some point, it doesn't add much at all to his gameplay or enable any interesting or healthy plays.

Amumu's is also ripe ground for improvement, though it does have a bit of gameplay to it in its favour (work AA's into your play against targets, particularly those your team will focus).

Olaf's passive's great design I'd argue, creates a really interesting tension for both him and his opponents and has some cool item choice implications.

Fizz's passive isn't inspiring, it does quite a lot to help him function in lane though. Can imagine some possible improvements, wouldn't see it as as clear a win as replacing Fiddle's passive for example though.

Chibi Templar3/1/2016, 2:47:07 AM7 votes

Karma just bake Gathering Fire into Mantra already.

Your Next Kill3/1/2016, 3:21:56 AM6 votes

I personally think Olaf's passive is one of the best things about him.

MrLongLegs3/1/2016, 8:31:26 AM2 votes

yeah cuz buffing fizz is a good idea

Crett3/1/2016, 3:02:08 AM2 votes

Alistar

GrandmaOsama3/1/2016, 6:46:11 PM1 votes

You could change nunu's old passive: Visionary Nunu can cast a spell free after 5 attacks. You could rework it into Nunu deals increased 20% damage for 5seconds if Ice blast goes out of the limited cast range while following a champion. By the way this passive can only apply when the Ice blast has hit the enemy champion

Paladin 0f Life3/1/2016, 3:00:49 AM1 votes

I agree amumus is just dumb lol like if 2 spells proc it then that would be cool.

EcchiOtakuTM3/1/2016, 3:30:27 AM1 votes

Fid needs it, amumu just needs to be changed to abilities.

I think everyone else, especially the ones you listed are fine.

J Eevo3/1/2016, 11:17:29 AM1 votes

The ones I have the most gripe with are Lissandra Karma (and Sion's W passive which is just hp taken out from his natural growth, but his normal passive of reviving on death is kinda cool)