i love how there is always trending champ to hate on

Dat cool kid··33 votes·2,619 views

You remember about a month ago when every post was about how op Kalista was? or how about 2 months ago when every post was about how op Leblanc was? my point is that some people just post hate on a champ because everyone else is. this doesn't mean that the champ their talking about is broken cough Vayne cough.

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AMYS GRAVE34 votes

I still hate kalista.

Never thought she was OP just poorly designed.

Tails Doll4 votes

Exactly. This is why people hate her. She is not OP, but she is terrible Champion design.

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Even if she's underpowered she could still be nerfed due to how unfun it is to fight against her.

"o u actualy weree planing 2 hit thos skillshots"

Keevalroy16 votes

I've never stopped complaining about what a horrible mistake Kalista is, LB has always been a problem, and the only reason people complain about Vayne is because every carry that bullied her in lane has been nerfed to hell - which of course means she's strong now.

Droogzy9 votes

I think the problem lies with two main problems:

The first one is champion designs. Certain champions are either going to just be flat out broken if they have the right numbers due to how frustrating and/or overloaded their kit is. See Yasuo, Kalista, Riven or Leblanc. If they have the right numbers, they're going to be difficult to deal with. If they don't, they're generally not going to even make be a presence in LoL.

Usually this means their kit design is an immense problem.

Then there are others whom become strong through virtue of how the meta is playing out. Vayne is pretty much a textbook example of this. Tanks are significantly more frequent then now then a year ago. The more tanks or high hp champions you see, the more you will see Vayne. I do think she is too strong, but there is a reason why her playing and win rate has shot up lately. When tanks fizzle out and assassins come back, you won't see a lot of Vaynes being played.

Then the cycle will shift to complaining about which ever assassin is overpowered :p

Tails Doll1 votes

Not when assassins come back, but when they buff ADC lane bullies.

Voluug132 votes

Exactly, because Vayne has one of the easiest times dealing with assassins - self peel too stronk.

TurquoiseYoshi7 votes

Well, Vayne has gotten pretty out of hand. She's starting to get major pro usage, and is actually working. I've honestly seen her bully an opponent back to base, just from her AAs. She didn't miss a single CS as it happened, and all she had was a Doran's Blade. So maybe Vayne needs some nerfs.

In any case, the other two you mentioned were eventually nerfed and brought back into check.

Lugg6 votes

That's because as the meta changes, some champion gets an unfair advantage.

Dreadlocks5 votes

Usually this is true.. but the hate on Vayne is at a very random time. Vayne is known for being good vs tanks given her W. However, it wasn't until after the cinderhulk meta that people complained about Vayne.

I do feel that Vaynes W needs to be changed to only % dmg and have the flat damage removed.. But the timing of which people are crying about Vayne is laughable.

Lugg4 votes

The thing is, during the majority of the meta, you had viable counters to Vayne to keep her in check. However, all of those counters have been nerfed to the point of not countering her anymore. That is why you didn't see the Vayne hate until now.

Vicarious1176 votes

I still complain about Kalista and LB, they're still annoying as all living fuck to deal with, and I've always hated Vayne as well, among a couple other champs who become the frequent focus and then don't get talked about as much for a while afterwards.

Just cause the forums do through a cycle doesn't mean no one thinks past focus' aren't still broken, OP, or just irritating. All three of those champs you mentioned are problems, two of them just aren't played as often as the third therefore not talked about as much.

Logic, bruh.

Only Play Darius5 votes

LeBlanc was nerfed a while ago and we were all happy until her recent buffs.

Everyone hates Kalista and Vayne for the same reason, ADC's with infinite self-peel are inherently toxic to play against because they can work around their only real weakness, getting caught out. Vayne honestly doesn't need a support to protect her half the time and unlike every other duelist in the game, she doesn't pay for it with garbage teamfighting because she can deal damage from range. Kalista is also a nightmare to lock down with her horribly designed passive which also makes her immune to movespeed slows, and her overloaded kit allows her to be relevant at all stages of the game.

Sniper 04 votes

Vayne kalista and jinx outclass every other adc though.... lol

AstroFerrari 2 votes

that's the fault of riot only, if you think about it there is no reason for the ADCs to be so unbalanced

Sniper 03 votes

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that's the fault of riot only, if you think about it there is no reason for the ADCs to be so unbalanced

That was kind of my point. xD

Marthian1 votes

And Draven.

Alpharite4 votes

Riven and Fizz are quite popular for the circlejerk as well. Zed had a similar amount of threads before his nerfs, and so did Lucian.

Laraso7 votes

Fizz deserves every last bit of hate he gets.

Tails Doll4 votes

And so does Riven.

Voluug134 votes

And so does Zed.

Tails Doll2 votes

At least Zed is easier to counter. 2 Items and a summ spell makes Zed really really sad. Oh and Vlad LOL Troll poll awayyyy

ChaosThief3 votes

2 items Summoner spell

This is why I hate zed, you're forcing me to do all this stuff. Then again, at least I live compared to fizz...

Tails Doll1 votes

Well, counter building is something in this game, if you dont do it you dont win, simple. And i think this is horrible champion design. Getting a Zhonya/QSS means Zed cant do his job, and since this two items are GOOD on his targets (APC and ADC) then you dont even punish them with sub-bar items.

Honeslty hating Zed is kinda dumb, the fact it's so easy to counter build it's kinda retarded when you bitch about him killing you, especially as an ADC, since the item cost 1250 G or something, and gives you MR and a good active.

I do hate, however, that he can 100-0 WITHOUT his ult tick. Just by ulting and using the dmg from the 3 shadows + Botrk+ Hydra+ AA he can kill you.... Granted that's a long combo, but still, I think he is the only assasin that can 100-0 somone without his ult.

EDIT: Oh, and the fact that the DMG from the ult IGNORES resistance, meaning you have to save your def skill for the tick not the dmg, which I think is kinda bullshit, and it's hidden iformation.

I found out about this while playing Yi against him, meditated his full combo and barely did dmg to me, then once I left meditation the tick went of and took ALL my hp, only needing a single AA to finish me off.

That's really bullshit.

warpenguin5553 votes

remember the QQing a few months ago overRumble and Vladimir. best part was they were balanced

Catastrop2 votes

There was QQ over these 2? Why?

warpenguin5551 votes

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There was QQ over these 2? Why?

no reason. AP items changes that did almost nothing to them.

Vicarious1171 votes

Cause with the AP item adjustments they became huge problems, then they were balanced so you don't see them single handedly dominating entire teams now.

Zoomer Darius1 votes

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remember the QQing a few months ago overRumble and Vladimir. best part was they were balanced

people will never stop crying about vlad

NewFoundAbility1 votes

people will never stop crying about vlad

People will never stop saying why Vladimir's kit is unhealthy.*

FTFY


I may be completely wrong, but I remember something about Vlad changing a lot of AP items because of his kit. Something along the lines of nerfs because Vlad uses them, and he was too strong with those items, so they just nerfed those items...

If anyone can tell me the correct history about Vlad and something to do with items, it would be appreciated. :)

Doctor Dyment3 votes

I believe that if there are champions made powerful by the meta, then they should be balanced out according the the meta. But those select few who continue to be complained about even after metas move forward (ie: Vanye and Riven) then THOSE are the ones to truly worry about.

Baby Ghoul2 votes

Vayne hatred has been around for a while now.

The only one that applies to the trending hatred is the Kalista. It was pretty hot for a while a few months ago, and now she's barely mentioned again.

Leblanc threads have left because the meta has shifted, and she was nerfed. If they ever decide to buff her, I assume we'll see those threads again.

TheVishual2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dat cool kid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mivqp6v4,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-31T21:57:46.341+0000)

You remember about a month ago when every post was about how op Kalista was? or how about 2 months ago when every post was about how op Leblanc was? my point is that some people just post hate on a champ because everyone else is. this doesn't mean that the champ their talking about is broken cough Vayne cough.

These champs were always broken, it's just when they become popular that people see and start bitching about them

RowanEnd2 votes

lmao it's not like we forgot about them we just realize there's a larger shit pile then we originally thought

Nimba2 votes

I think it's gonna be Diana or Tristana next. Seems to be whoever the top adc is, gets complained about the most. It was Kalista then it was Jinx and then they were nerfed a lot so now it's Vayne, after she's nerfed, likely to be Trist imo.

Also feel like the only thing stopping endless Diana QQ is popularity

Tails Doll1 votes

I'll bet the next one is going to be MissFortune ...

One can only dream...

Nimba1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tails Doll,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mivqp6v4,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2015-09-01T05:38:10.577+0000)

I'll bet the next one is going to be MissFortune ...

One can only dream...

Probably, she already stronger than most ppl think, after she gets buffed the MF hate will be insane

Tails Doll1 votes

She only needs 3 buffs

A) Incresse second Q range. They reduced the cone but didnt buff the range to compensate. Her Q hits harder, but its really hard to hit, because it's not an ordinary skill shot, it relies on minion positioning and HP, something that makes it really obvious on when you are going to use it and sometimes they move with you expecting it, resulting in a missed Q and you raging.

B) Make her W active better. I have no idea what this skill wants to be. Is it a MS buff? Is it an AS buff? Is a on hit buff? It's all of them and neither at the same time, the only good thing is the AS buff.

C) Make her ult deal real dmg late game. I'm a sitting duck while chananilg this ability, at least make it worth while. You end up using this skill to scare people and make them disengage, or to finish up that one guy who mannaged to run away with 10 HP. It's scaling are weird, they also need to fix that. I know that mix dmg is supposed to be a good thing because its harder to itimize agaist it, but it's also harder to itimize FOR it. I'll much rather have the AD scalling dealing Physical dmg and the AP scalling dealing Magic dmg, because to be honest, we are not corky, or magic dmg is a joke.

TotalJerk2 votes

Last Season we also had Corki Elise JarvanIV Kassadin Khazix Lucian Vi on the hate list. People just suddenly forgot they hated those champions when they got nerfed like they demanded Riot do.

Dr Poro1 votes

Because when they get nerfed, they're not in every other game anymore stomping the enemy team. Of course they don't hate those champs as much anymore because they're not to be hated anymore.

TotalJerk1 votes

Every single one of those champions had a period of being in the top 3 most picked for their role, last season.

Dreadlocks1 votes

You forgot Zed and Lee Sin in your recent list.. oh and Riven!!! Riven never seems to go away lol.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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You forgot Zed and Lee Sin in your recent list.. oh and Riven!!! Riven never seems to go away lol.

Zed got nerf, Lee's counterparts got buffed as well and itemization for them. On to the OP, There is always a trending OP champion because there are always changes that are over looked(example pre season warwick).

Dreadlocks1 votes

all the champions i named got nerfed, as did leblanc and kalista, which is the point of his post and my comment. Meaning Vayne will probably be nerfed given the QQ threads and history.

Hawkefire1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dat cool kid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mivqp6v4,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-08-31T21:57:46.341+0000)

You remember about a month ago when every post was about how op Kalista was? or how about 2 months ago when every post was about how op Leblanc was? my point is that some people just post hate on a champ because everyone else is. this doesn't mean that the champ their talking about is broken cough Vayne cough.

Fun fact, I still strongly dislike all of those champions, and that has never changed.

Vayne because she is safe and hyper mobile, combined with %max health true damage which cannot be effectively itemized against. My dislike for her is only more-so because the items that actually were good against her have been nerfed, which only annoys me further.

LeBlanc because she is safe and hyper mobile, combined with incredibly massive burst and very high snowball potential. I don't mind her as much because actually carrying games with her is difficult (she suffers harshly in teamfights) but that doesn't change the fact that I significantly dislike her.

Kalista should never have existed. Period. That champion is the absolute culmination of mobility creep and safety combined. Granting an ADC strong DPS, free vision tools, insane amounts of free mobility, and hard CC on top of that, and you have a broken champion.

Drakylon1 votes

If competitive stats can be trusted Kalista is still overpowered -- it's just that no one ever sees her in competitive play because her ban rate across all regions tops the charts. Heck, in all regions but possibly EU, she has the highest pick+ban rate of any champion in the game, at over 90%.

KatCraft1 votes

When she starts appearing in every game, that's why.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

People still hate Kalista. People still hate LeBlanc from a design point of view, and will once she gets buffs.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

We have an acronym for those champions.

FotM - Flavor of the Month

Basically, it's a champion that's popular due to the current meta, and they become a popular complaint target as a result.

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