If it means junglers stop hogging 50% of the resources on a single target assassin with the intent to 1v9 games.
It's not fun. It's not exciting gameplay. Please nerf the fucking runes, masteries, and summoner spells that enable them to do it in disorganized games so they stop getting funny ideas in games where the enemy has half a brain to play around them.
RekSai CoffeeCo1 votesRevert scuttle and balance the jungle xp to solo laners and funneling shouldn't rear its head again, simple logic but they want a "mini objective" for esports.
LTK KoRo1 votesyeah, because junglers should be a second support. Every other role can pick a carry, but jungler shouldn't be allowed to do that? Current jungle is actually pretty balanced in kind of diversity, and it shouldn't be destroyed.
Tank junglers meta sucks, due to lack of the pure tank junglers. Champions like Trundle, Rek'Sai, Gragas, they aren't true tanks, they're bruisers. And playing bruiser with full tank build is so unsatisfying and boring. Basically, as pure tank junglers we have Seju and Zac. Amumu doesn't count, he's too outdated.
Rock MD1 votes[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PYyAPZH0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-03T16:11:57.965+0000)
yeah, because junglers should be a second support. Every other role can pick a carry, but jungler shouldn't be allowed to do that? Current jungle is actually pretty balanced in kind of diversity, and it shouldn't be destroyed.
Tank junglers meta sucks, due to lack of the pure tank junglers. Champions like Trundle, Rek'Sai, Gragas, they aren't true tanks, they're bruisers. And playing bruiser with full tank build is so unsatisfying and boring. Basically, as pure tank junglers we have Seju and Zac. Amumu doesn't count, he's too outdated.
Oh yes, I forgot about the jungle diversity.
Y'know, the one where Gragas is good and Nunu is being played a lot because he just got reworked and the next 15 most picked junglers are all carries or assassins.
Yes that jungle diversity. I'm so glad that the jungle is this diverse landscape where any and all jungle carries can thrive.
It's a shit meta and the mindset/attitude these jungle players have of vacuuming all the resources makes it 10x worse.
LTK KoRo1 votesBut other roles vacuum resources even more than junglers? Basically, any sane and non-retarded jungler farms only his jungle+crab+occasional counterjungle+some creeps while laner is dead/shoving. Meanwhile, ADCs after laning are taking entirety of red side quadrant, combined with truckload of lane minions. Midlaners get to clear blue and raptors every while. Most of the players have attitude of being the primary carry who deserves most resources, and it isn't bound to role. Junglers, Midlaners, Toplaners, ADCs, hell, sometimes even supports will be mad if you'll clear pink ward in front of them. Attitude isn't a junglers problem only.
Y'know, the one where Gragas is good and Nunu is being played a lot because he just got reworked and the next 15 most picked junglers are all carries or assassins.
like i said before, there aren't many jungle tanks here. Also junglers like Trundle or Olaf hold a high winrate while being build mostly full tank, or one damage item+rest of tank. They doesn't count?
Also in soloq people always hover to carries when they're as strong as supportive champs. When you're playing to win, you want to secure win with your plays, and not to be on mercy of your carries.
Personally i think you're making this issue much bigger than it is. Jungle carries are strong? Yes. Are some of them overbearing? (
) Yes. Are tanks in jungle playable? Yes.
Rock MD1 votes[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PYyAPZH0,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-03T20:44:25.285+0000) Meanwhile, ADCs after laning are taking entirety of red side quadrant, combined with truckload of lane minions. Midlaners get to clear blue and raptors every while.
You need only say this and I know you're not actually playing the game at a moderately high level.
Just worry about this thread. It's not for or about you.
LTK KoRo1 votesMaybe im not a high elo player, but i still can post my opinions, and they aren't inferior due only to my rank being lower. Also looks like situation is pretty simple, jungle players want to be able to play carries while mid/adcs want to pigeonhole them into tanks.
Rock MD1 votes[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PYyAPZH0,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-03T21:00:59.997+0000)
Maybe im not a high elo player, but i still can post my opinions, and they aren't inferior due only to my rank being lower. Also looks like situation is pretty simple, jungle players want to be able to play carries while mid/adcs want to pigeonhole them into tanks.
Your opinions aren't worth less because you're a low elo player. Your opinions are worth less because you're trying to justify the level of play in one elo bracket using your experiences in another.
Like I said, thread's not about you. Leave it be.