skarner

khorney·Nov 29, 2016·3 votes·693 views

can we please rework his rework. the one before this rework was way way better who cares about the useless Chrystals, how he was befoer was better but you changed it to this rework and i realized why i stopped playing skarner as my main jungler anymore, yes gj lets make it so he loses attackspeed off his q and make it so he cant stun multpile people at once.... the only real benefit to this rework was his ad ratio is higher but he loses massive amounts of damage i get it you wanted to change him because more or less he was a stronger version of uydr in fact 1v1 skarner wins most of the time

22 Comments

LostFr0stNov 29, 20161 votes

Literally everything except the rocks has made Skarner a better and more cohesive champ. I can sit here 'till we're both blue defending the champ. They have many other champs to look at before going back to Skarner.

khorneyNov 29, 20161 votes

here is my ? nothign was wrong with him before this cyrstal rework nothing.

LostFr0stNov 29, 20161 votes

Yes there was, he was an ult bot who needed flash whose stun was tied to landing 3qs and an auto when most of the time without taking ghost or building Rylais/a slow item (once they removed Q slow) he could not stay on the target. His shield had a low base which scaled with AP, which was tied to his MS for his engages, so it was popped quite easily. Said shield now scales with HP in addition to the AP scaling, opening many items for him.

Name something other than the rocks which is worse on his kit post-rework.

khorneyNov 29, 20161 votes

seeing he could stun a whole team? and now he really cant. but right thats totally bad. all he does now is ult and flash nothing changed

LostFr0stNov 29, 20161 votes

He can still stun a whole team right now. ??? What do you mean he cant? And he now has a built-in cd refund on his E. Now he can W in, E, Ult--->pull them back with the ms passive boost (while Qing)--->auto as the suppression ends for additional lock-down and refresh his passive, along with his E being off cd again for further cc. That's without Flash; he can easily take Ghost now if he wants.

khorneyNov 29, 20161 votes

umm he cant unless they are all in a line becuase u need to hit ur e in order to stun....... but okay before all u needed was q to stun gain attack speed

LostFr0stNov 29, 20161 votes

Just hit as many as you can, get the auto off to stun however many you got, and E is now off cd to throw again. You also get the passive MS between procing the stuns to chase the others. Before the stacks would fall off anyways, and you'd for sure never get to stun the same person twice in a fight. Don't get me wrong, I wish they'd scrap the rocks and give back the Q mini-phage, but you can stun the whole team right now with him just fine.

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

so i have to do abcdef so i can get it or i can just ab and get it ?

LostFr0stNov 30, 20161 votes

Sure. You know what I meant D:<

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

u literally have to do this to be relevent. before all you needed was to hit q and thats it not ot mention u gained attackspeed off it not u get nothing cause of useless passive

LostFr0stNov 30, 20161 votes

Before all you could do was spam Q or flash+ult. You can still auto a minion for the passive if you miss and keep going if you want. This isn't going anywhere and I think I explained it pretty well so yeah...

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

becuase gaining attack speed off q and now never gaining attack speed is better how.... not to mention split pushing u could do fast as fck now u cant

LostFr0stNov 30, 20161 votes

Get Triforce then. He's still a super good splitpusher with E through the wave.

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

umm a he isnt because he gains no attack speed and B. i know how to play skarner, he is hella weak compared to hwo he used to be but what ever u say

WinBoatNov 29, 20161 votes

Skarner is good, if you think he is bad, then well you're lying to yourself.

He's amazing. i got a mastery 6 Skarner, I play him often, I would know. Also, it depends on how you build him.

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

umm i dont stray from my buil dever and i knwo how to play him i have mastery 7 on him..... . he was a lot stronger before this rework

jadelinkNov 30, 20161 votes

I doubt they're going to undo one of the very healthy reworks just because a few old mains of the champ cant adapt, happens all the time, he's fine, solid, strong, has counterplay, is engaging for a FAR larger number of players now. I get that you dont like it, you need to get that it isn't going to change back.

khorneyNov 30, 20161 votes

excpet he isnt strong but okay, there isnt anyhting strong about him minus the ratios on ad. ohh yes the chrystal towers are op ......... this previous rework was superior becuase of the how it all was this one there isnt anythign good about it. the one before this one allowed him to go top lane but not anymore. also his clear times suffer as a result of this rework

Dessert IslandDec 19, 20161 votes

I mostly agree. I don't like having a minigame to get a boost in mana regen, attack speed and move speed in set locations across the map. However, this new kit is definitely stronger with better AD scaling and a max HP shield. If you land your E you can dominate absolutely. Max cdr feels fantastic. But again, it doesn't mean I like having immense power in this spires, because it introduced a frustrating aspect.

Diamond Skarner mains are doing extremely well on him with warrior into trinity rush. His build is more flexible now IMO, black cleaver/ice born combination works well, mega hp stacking with cinderhulk gives big shields etc.

I understand the frustration about the spires though, as i despised them so much after the rework. Now i accept they won't change it and he will have this 'gimmick', but once you get through early game you should feel strong after 2/3 items even if you fight outside of them Skarner If they want to reduce the spire effects I would love that, maybe give him back 3-4 base AD in exchange and boom, spires become a smaller deal.

khorneyApr 10, 20171 votes

warrior into trinity force was the same items you were suppsoed to use on the previous rework and the ad scaling does not make up for the attack speed, split pushing, stunning a whole team(provided you had tiamat), i will forever complain about this skarner because he is weaker the old one would smash this one with out effort they turned him into a shytty version of udyr, before he was a stronger version of udyr this one is crap

GodJormungandrApr 9, 20171 votes

skarner's release's date till 2014 was one of the most fun and strongest junglers in game, Idk why riot ruined that for skarner users. I mean come on he is a scorpion he suppose to be a duelist... give him at least a poisonous passive with something more interesting, i like his Ult + w but his q e and passive definitely need rework + buffs

khorneyApr 10, 20171 votes

finally someone who agrees these rework is a huge failure it sucks, heck wow so he can gank a little better big whoop and little i mean a little otehr then that thi sskarner is shytty as fck