illaoi E shouldnt get roasted by dots

Big Lincoln·Aug 23, 2017·23 votes·1,578 views

lame stuff tbh any top lane AP with DFT doesn't even have to play decent to negate their poor positioning against her

40 Comments

SalsonAug 23, 20173 votes

Hey Lincoln, I picked Kayle into Illaoi yesterday.

Is there anything Illaoi can do here except feeding a hypercarry?

DeathBurstAug 23, 20171 votes

Hit her E?

SalsonAug 23, 20171 votes

Hm, I took W lvl 2. I start the trade and judge when to selfcast W, while rushing item 3006 . The movement speed was just too much.

The few times I got hit, I could still outtrade her and deny the ghost.

To be fair, I don't think either of us were dedicated mains.

I Main SwainAug 24, 20175 votes

kayle would just zone you off of it, q you and start aa'ing you to death

Big LincolnAug 23, 20174 votes

no, unwinnable

try to do something in another lane

Chembaron YamadaAug 23, 20173 votes

Why not? It is a counter mechanic for it. Saying it shouldn't work is like saying Teemo's Teemo blind shouldn't be able to prevent my Camille's Camille Q.

Big LincolnAug 23, 20172 votes

counter mechanics like standing behind minions or dodging one of the slowest skillshots in the game?

Chembaron YamadaAug 23, 20171 votes

Kite Camille after her first cast of Q, CC her so she can't use the second proc of it.

The counter mechanics you mention are available for everyone and not kit specific. Like I just showed, you can do the same for Camille. Kit specific counter mechanics are a thing, hence why stuff like Shen and Teemo for example can do pretty well against champions, which rely heavily on auto attacks.

Elemental LuxAug 23, 20173 votes

Lincoln, I agree with you. It's kinda bullshit show malzahar clicks on me with space aids and I lose 8 seconds rapidly off my pull.

five oh tree Aug 23, 20172 votes

oh no, illaoi hit one skillshot, I deserve to lose 50% of my health and be forced to play like a bitch for the next 12 seconds. Much more fun and interactive gameplay than that, yeah?

Big LincolnAug 23, 20177 votes

when you have to exaggerate to have an argument lul

five oh tree Aug 23, 20171 votes

lil kodaAug 23, 20171 votes

hes not exaggerating LOL

Big LincolnAug 23, 20173 votes

not a single thing he said is right but why would I expect your kind to know a thing about Illaoi lol

lil kodaAug 23, 20172 votes

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5050BSAug 23, 20172 votes

50% is not possible off JUST her E

If you are getting hit by her Tentacles AND your Spirit is getting hit thats on you.

ninjaroxasAug 24, 20172 votes

You can get her E to do 50% with just the spirt alone

HarIeAug 24, 20172 votes

Although to accomplish this during laning phase you would have to max E first.

ninjaroxasAug 24, 20173 votes

Well i never said she could get it in lane just that it's possible

I Main SwainAug 24, 20172 votes

disregarding the ad ratio, the damage transfer on her e is 25-45, and thats assuming you kill the entire thing. her e will screw you over only if its late game or shes really ahead, its so incredibly easy to deal with

TheSingularityAug 24, 20172 votes

item 3071 item 3072 item 3074 item 3033 item 3812 item 1038 item 2140 and watch the world burn. The ratio of dmg is nuts, almost kill people with every E

Mister DarkAug 23, 20173 votes

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oh no, illaoi hit one skillshot, I deserve to lose 50% of my health and be forced to play like a bitch for the next 12 seconds. Much more fun and interactive gameplay than that, yeah?

Dodge her e and u shit on her so why not complain about that

NyarlathοtepAug 23, 20171 votes

You shouldnt be hit in the first place

EschetonAug 23, 20172 votes

Wait, what is the issue exactly. Because I am having trouble making sense of this.

MooooooooreDakkaAug 25, 20171 votes

When your spirit gets pulled each time you hit her lowers the duration by one second, each tick of a dot does this so something like malz e of corki Gatling or dft gets rid of the spirit really fast.

5050BSAug 23, 20172 votes

Illaois E has soo many bugs with it.

It is blocked by TONS and I mean TONS of non-physical things.

Any Q that creates a projectile or non-targetable minion will block it. (Ekkos Q, Morgs Q, Swains Q, Fizz Ult, Jinx Ult)

Her E is JUST like Ahri's Charm. If she lands it you ARE suppose to Ether Die or almost Die.

I Main SwainAug 24, 20173 votes

well i wouldnt go so far as to say youre supposed to die or almost die, but youre definitely supposed to get punished

NineTailedMysticAug 24, 20171 votes

I understand of forcing you to fight or play her minigame, but I don't think the residual damage from hitting the E spirit should almost kill you.

RevaliAug 23, 20171 votes

I made a small post a long while ago about maybe changing the damage to the clone to a half second tick for dots instead of full seconds so she can atleast get a little time with it.

OyddAWqJ5rAug 23, 20171 votes

Should just change it to only proc on basic attacks and spell casts and only once per spell.

NineTailedMysticAug 24, 20171 votes

Favors ADCs too much.

The DeckownerAug 23, 20171 votes

what exactly do u mean?

LimrickAug 23, 201714 votes

The spirit Illaoi pulls with her E gets its duration lowered by one second every time you attack her. DoT spells and DFT count as multiple hits, so even a single spell can take several seconds off of her E duration.

The DeckownerAug 24, 20171 votes

Rumble DFT = Hard counter Illaoi?

LimrickAug 24, 20172 votes

Swain is worse.

BlackwindyAug 24, 20171 votes

Singed

EschetonAug 24, 20171 votes

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The spirit Illaoi pulls with her E gets its duration lowered by one second every time you attack her. DoT spells and DFT count as multiple hits, so even a single spell can take several seconds off of her E duration.

Finally! Thanks for actually clearing things up. Geez. Upvoted.

LimrickAug 24, 20171 votes

No problem.