I Think I'm Noticing A Trend

RocketRelm·Feb 27, 2016·1 votes·385 views

Tank Yi. Tank Fiora. Tank Ekko. Etc. Is this just a problem with Melee Carries showing up as a 'whole' when they have sustained damage patterns instead of burst damage patterns? I think the general issue is that they hit "Enough" Damage with 1 or 2 items, and then because the ADC or the squish mage never builds more defense, they don't NEED to build more damage to bust through it, so they just build defensive items because defense to live longer >>> killing the enemy 0.2 seconds faster once you GET there. If they don't get this damage with 1-2 items they just can't do their job.

Is this just a problem with the Melee Carry class by 'rote'?

3 Comments

PabloMaster54321Feb 27, 20161 votes

Tank yi is way too op.

venomous frostFeb 27, 20161 votes

I would say the problem is really high base damage/lots of free stats to make up for the lack of being ranged, which IS NEEDED, but there are tons of hybrid items giving both defensive and offensive stats (black cleaver hp +ad).

So no, this is not per se a problem with the class itself, but rather a itemization/skill problem.

If you look at fiora, she has %hp true damage with a decent scaling, and no need for AS itemization since her Q has almost no CD when used on an enemy, allowing her to build straight up ad with defensive items.

Yi has true damage and his passive gives him on-hit effects twice, but the real problem why tanky yi works imo is because his ult slow immunity and gigantic AS boost, if hes in your face hes just there, you cannot slow him at all, or kill him fast enough.

Ekko was originally a problem because his base damages were so high, he never needed obscene amounts of ap. I dont find him that much of a problem nowadays, but he also has a %hp passive i guess.

BluePolarizerFeb 27, 20161 votes

Tank Yi specifically is viable due to Fervor of Battle, giving him basically another BoRK for free.

If you already have 3000 gold worth of damage in your kit, what's the point in adding another 3000 gold of damage? Just get tanky so you can apply that damage.

Tank Ekko was always a thing because he has unreliable but devastating CC that requires him to go in, and he scales with HP as well as AP. You are not playing him as a carry in such a case, you are playing him as a low income disruption tank.

Fiora is broken due to the numbers on her kit. If you haven't found, even at the start of her rework she was optimized for a bruiser build, not an assassin build.