Stinger and Recurve Bow

JustMyBassCannon·May 8, 2015·3 votes·1,112 views

Right now, we have two AS items that build from 2 daggers. costs 1100 gold and has an on-hit effect. costs 1250 gold and has +10% AS, +10% CDR.

Why are these two items separated?

Aside from "One builds into these items, and the other builds into these items," because it's not like the build paths are set in stone, for what reason are these two items on the exact same build path, but two separate items that build into separate sets of items?

The only reason I can conjure is that Wit's End, Runaan's, etc. do not have CDR attached, and Zephyr doesn't have an on-hit effect attached, but it still doesn't seem like a justifiable reason to have this weird itemization setup.

3 Comments

TalamareMay 8, 20152 votes

I agree, they should change the recipe of Recurve Bow

Perhaps Dagger and Long Sword?

ProfDrDeathMay 8, 20152 votes

This could potentially be fixed by a Brutalizer split-up into a AD+CdR component and a AD+ArPen component. Possibly, have Stinger become the AD+CdR one.

Then you could have build Recurve into all the AS/On-hit stuff and the new Stinger into Zephyr (and other stuff).

Teridax68May 8, 20152 votes

I think it might be worth removing item 3101 completely and replacing it with item 1043 . item 3115 is an on-hit item, and so it would make sense for it to build from the game's baby on-hit component, and item 3172 has attack damage, which is essentially an upgrade from Recurve Bow's 10 on-hit physical damage. The only thing missing is an AD + CDR component, as ProfDrDeath mentioned, and I think having a 15 AD + 10% CDR item to replace item 1037 in Zephyr's recipe (along with other items in other recipes, such as item 3508 's or item 3707 's) would make it work a lot more smoothly.

I think Stinger needs to go, rather than Recurve Bow, because unlike Recurve Bow, which has good synergy with itself and feels satisfying, Stinger doesn't feel particularly strong. Even on champions who really make good use of it (e.g. Teemo , Diana , Kayle ) it just doesn't provide that much of a power spike for its price. Having Recurve Bow build into either an AP + CDR or an AD + CDR item would allow for a much better build path overall.