And they said Ashe was underpower

UkeNeverSeme·Nov 16, 2014·2 votes·1,124 views

To all the people out their claiming that ashe is "unviable and underpowered", and felt that what phreak said the other day isn't true:

Two parts of my extended match history, and these games include feederinos, and afk's and other things. In the first game on the second file (my latest game on her), i killed a vayne + BC 1v2 while my support was dc'ed (ty for the blue buff that made it possible sion <3 xD), and carried a 5/12 jayce. (well his kda was a lot worse by the start of midgame)..

I wouldn't mind an ashe buff, but guys xD SHE DOESN'T NEED It :b

Edit: Also note that these games are almost exclusively blind pick. so Fizz'es akali's and zeds have been present at times.

4 Comments

disregardableNov 16, 20144 votes

A couple successful games says nothing about how viable a champion is. Even Yasuo's winrate is above 40%, meaning you're winning almost half the time. The question is how meaningfully can you contribute to the game as compared to your teammates and your opponents. Though I do think Ashe succeeds at that and is viable; I like to play her.

UkeNeverSemeNov 16, 20141 votes

well it's two 4-game winstreaks, in which i hard carried several of the games. I have difficulty doing that on Mordekaiser ;) Or Kennen, or any other number of (IMO) unviable champs. I'm trying to demonstrate that ashe fits really well into what happens in normal non-pro games, and isn't in need of the buffs some people are calling for, that's all. And yea win rate doesn't say anything, but a single players winrate can. As a champs viability is determined by how well someone good at him/her does. Eg. LeBlonc had a sub 50 percent winrate back when she was considered madly broken, because so many people were bad at her, but in the hands of people who could play her she destroyed, and was thus (a bit more than) viable.

SmokingPuffinNov 16, 20141 votes

Ashe is weak. You can play her successfully, but it's not really a recommended course of action.

There are many champs in a worse state than this. With so many similar champions in the pool, it's unreasonable to expect them all to be competitive picks. The good news with Ashe is that she does have a clear niche; she's the ADC with the highest utility and the best initiation ability. Ideally, we'd push more champions into having clear niches within their role like this, so the cast feels more diverse than it does today.