There aren't very many physical damage Tanks come to think of it

PopcornBunni··3 votes·3,244 views

Poppy Sion and 5% of the time Gnar are about it, and Poppy was shifted a bit away from the role to try and make her more of a diver a few patches ago.

item 3025 is bascially only being worn by Ezreal in the current day. (Ezrael being the sole user of an item, to the point that he breaks it singlehandedly? unfathomable)

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Ralanr5 votes

Yeah, most tanks used to be designed with a more magic focus when it came to their damage. I think it was because early MR was weak and it helped tanks fall off harder as the game went on. Though I prefer tanks with a more physical damage design since it allows them to better diversify their builds and maybe even function better in top for last hitting.

Though I don’t think lack of AD tanks is why IBG isn’t used often.

Sire Hippington1 votes

Actually, it helped tanks NOT falling off as hard as the game went on. Earlygame, base mr always was higher than armor, while scaleing worse or not at all. At the same time, champions did tend to buy alot more armor than MR because GA gave more armor and was the most common squishy def item while any beefer champ mostly had to fear dps from ADs so the'd mostly go for armor. Armor values on items also were in average higher than MR. As a result, magic damage would usually hit alot harder vs nearly every target than physical damage unless you got armorpen, especially later in the game. Thus, dealing magic damage helpt to keep the damage relevant without investing into offense. It also ment more damage vs squishys and less vs tanky targets that actually go for some mr. Now, We have nearly as much magical dps as we have physical and as a result we have nearly as much MR as armor so the difference isn't really that big anymore.

Freevageeter4 votes

Malphite uses item 3025, but yeah him and Ez are the only 2 that use it.

heroikc1 votes

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Malphite uses item 3025, but yeah him and Ez are the only 2 that use it.

Poppy can build it too to up her shield hits with an AoE slow...but yeah, I favor trinity over iceborn for damage and Tiamat for clear. Not sure if I can count Ornn either given he focuses more on tankiness strictly than AD stats.

Ifneth1 votes

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Malphite uses item 3025, but yeah him and Ez are the only 2 that use it.

Poppy builds it second item. I love the Sheen burst.

ForFoxSakes1 votes

only 2... Sejuani

heroikc1 votes

Naut could use Iceborn, and Poppy and Ornn could too.

Done251 votes

Tanks generally don't scale with AD because AD is consistent damage via auto attacks. Tanks are all about powerful AoE cc abilities. They don't need AA dps as well.

PopcornBunni1 votes

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Tanks generally don't scale with AD because AD is consistent damage via auto attacks. Tanks are all about powerful AoE cc abilities. They don't need AA dps as well.

Vanguards maybe. Aside from Galio, Wardens don't have chain cc, let alone the reliable engage of Vanguards. They rely much more on their dueling power because their power budget isn't spent much on their abilities

Done251 votes

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Vanguards maybe. Aside from Galio, Wardens don't have chain cc, let alone the reliable engage of Vanguards. They rely much more on their dueling power because their power budget isn't spent much on their abilities

The only "tank" with actual dueling power is Shen thanks to his empowered Q, and he's more of a juggernaut by this point with how he builds/plays.

I dare you to explain how Thresh or Baum have 1v1 dueling power in place of say...Udyr or Trundle.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Lmao what? Ezreal isn't using IBG. Get Trinity, unless you're into a full AD matchup to justify it.

Nasus uses it. Poppy can use either IBG or Trinity. Sejuani uses IBG. Malphite can use it. Leona occasionally gets it...

Ezreal is far from a core user of it, and he's far from abusing it.

Colton1471 votes

Ornn item 3070

Sire Hippington1 votes

JarvanIV quallifies aswell, good cc, strong engage, team buff, he can(and often did) go tank and still provide alot for his team.

Also, ever since the nerfs in the item 3025 item 3068 period with fizz and ekko, Iceborn feels very undewhelming. Another thin i dislike about it is that it needs aditional armor to feel good while also only providing armor so you'd lack health and mr to actually be tanky...They just should make it melee only, up the base aoe and lower the scaleing and then either buff the damage back to 125%, or add more stats or increase the slow% or the duration. It just doesn't feel very statisfying most of the time. Though Iceborn and AD-tanks are not that related imo, iceborn works of base ad so it doesn't scale with aditional ad and it doesn't impact ad-scaleings, a maokai gets about as much damage from it as a poppy or xin...

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