quallifies aswell, good cc, strong engage, team buff, he can(and often did) go tank and still provide alot for his team.
Also, ever since the nerfs in the
period with fizz and ekko, Iceborn feels very undewhelming.
Another thin i dislike about it is that it needs aditional armor to feel good while also only providing armor so you'd lack health and mr to actually be tanky...They just should make it melee only, up the base aoe and lower the scaleing and then either buff the damage back to 125%, or add more stats or increase the slow% or the duration. It just doesn't feel very statisfying most of the time.
Though Iceborn and AD-tanks are not that related imo, iceborn works of base ad so it doesn't scale with aditional ad and it doesn't impact ad-scaleings, a maokai gets about as much damage from it as a poppy or xin...