A Leblanc landed chain on full hp Vayne, Vayne Q autos 60% hp Leblanc, they oneshot each other.
I literally witnessed this today, and I am questioning myself how is this league of legends anymore.
Is this how you want the game to be Rito?
Sona Ping51 votesIf two people roll two olde timey cannons, made of glass,
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/glass_cannon_by_swarleyswazenoskie-d604r4t_6338.png
down two hills opposite each other, are we really surprised at the results?
The Deckowner8 votesYou would expect both crash down into pieces, but not instantly obliterate upon the physical contact of two atoms. Remember how back in the day 1v1s were somewhat fun and feels skillful? like the classic Ryu vs Faker where both dancing around hitting multiple shuricans looking like mechanical gods?
Papa Slothy12 votesthat still exists, it's just that certain champs do a lot of damage
The Deckowner10 votesthat seems like all the meta champions right now.
DarkRitual3 votesMost effective tactics available. Deleting people is very effective.
It Hertz When IP2 votesDeath is the best CC.
koreansmurf87516 votesputs on glasses actually, a knock up is the best cc because you cannot qss or cleanse it and in most cases they are fairly easy to hit whereas death is just caused by taking more damage than you have hit points, not hindering your movement.
Aazzlano2 votesThat's not what Meta means at all. It literally has nothing to do with that.
CuII The Meek5 votesM.E.T.A Most Effective Tactic Available That is exactly what Meta means.....
koreansmurf87512 votespeople that think meta just means op trigger me more than people who get vayne past ban phase and go bork pd instead of shiv ie
CuII The Meek2 votesI do not believe that META means op, merely correcting the wrong thought that meta doesn't mean Most Effective Tactic Available, which it does. I 100% agree that meta doesn't mean OP
It Hertz When IP3 votes
Dankstin22 votesCould I point out your horrible spelling? Shurican.
The Deckowner1 votesit's a god damn japanese word and you are arguing with me about english spelling?
TeCoolMage11 votesThat's not even how it's transliterated. Or pronounced.
Dankstin9 votesIt isn't like the word "shuriken" is hard to find in gaming media. You've seen it in gaming inventories, you've seen it spelled correctly before. So it's not so much an argument as it is a blatant call-out at your lazy spelling habits at the core of your posting. Next you'll tell me that you don't know that "Ca" isn't a symbol in the Japanese language.
DarkRitual25 votesIf it misses, is it a Shurican't?
koreansmurf87514 votesupvoted from a zed main : ^)
BakedLotion33 votesExcept leblanc had to actually land a skillshot and wait 1.5 seconds. But hey this is a sign vayne needs to get gutted. She kills faster than a leblanc.
Astôlfo3 votesAt least you can outplay and dodge every single thing in LeBlanc's kit besides her Q.
Ulriah25 votesWhen an ADC who is supposed to be effective against tanks has the same or even more burst than an assassin, you know the meta is fked.
Reaper Soraka23 votesThis is league of legends; the problem is there are only about a dozen legends right now instead of a hundred.
Too bad it had to be this way. I guess I'll play janna only this season.
3TWarrior2 votesexcept every time janna gets popular or even just "viable", she gets shut down hard by the dev team
Sintama14 votesYeah, Ghostcrawler did the "OMG SUPER BURST HIGH DAMAGE" to World of Warcraft, but he doesn't work for Blizzard anymore; he works for Riot Games now. It's only going to go downhill.
The Deckowner8 votesI honestly don't understand why Rito hired this guy, like I bet Blizzard will never hire Lyte.
Verdade2 votesWtf is this hate on ghostcrawler? He was in WOW dev team in WOTLK, which is considered wow's BEST expansion, from both PVP and PVE standpoint. He left before Cataclysm came, and cataclysm is the second worst expansion.
The Deckowner2 votesHe was the head of the WOW PvP balance team and he made all tanks and warriors useless while ranged characters dominate the game, which is what league has been turning into. He also started the trend of favourism where certain class/characters are getting smashed by nerf bat constantly while others dominate the meta and never get hit by the bat.
Verdade2 votesPlease, you never played WOW, stop talking. Consistency of highest ranking arena teams in wotlk, wrathful season (last WOTLK PVP season):
1- DK around 30% - melee 2- Paladin around 30% - melee or healer 3- Rogue around 12% - melee 4- Drood around 8% - melee or healer 5- Priest around 6% - ranged 6- Mage around 5% - ranged 7- Chaman around 4% - melee or healer 8- Hunter around 3% - ranged 9- Warrior around 2% - melee 10- Warlock less than 1% - ranged
Tanks in PVP were always either weak or cancerous "cough" Paladin "cough" so they gutted them. Warrior could deal 20k crits with shield slam (non-plate classes had less than 28k hp) and had unrivaled mobility, while Paladin had ability that Silenced, Snared and dealt very good damage at range, and was pretty spammable. They also scaled off STAMINA, so the tankier they were the harder they hit. So they gutted them.
Face The Lewd13 votesLeBlanc is designed to be a burst assassin though Delet Vayne
TurquoiseYoshi12 votesI mean, those are two of the burstiest champs in the game. Make that duel Mao'kai versus Skarner and you'll get slightly different results.
NineTailedMystic110 votesVayne shouldn't be one of the burstiest champs in the game.
Mr Noggenfogger11 votesTrue, but that doesn't make his statement less true
48983507DEL143 votesIt proves the OP's point of why League doesn't feel right.
RainbowIcee2 votesDoesn't mean he's wrong at all though for his statement and he's not challenging OP he's only saying they are atm. When that changes he'll have a different opinion but as it stands that's how things are. You don't like it complain that's fine that's fair you should... but it's still this way for now until they patch it.
Jaygo412 votesNOW we're getting somewhere
applause
500000000000000010 votesMaokai isn't a voidborn lmao
Baron Perenolde8 votesThis game just has too much damage now, it's ridiculous. And then we'll be getting Fervor buffs after CotC is nerfed! WHOOPEE!!
MeDicenWera4 votesI'm just skipping the next few patches honestly. There are other good games right now, just wait till the assassins get gutted again, Vayne gets nerfed a lil bit maybe and masteries hopefully get tunned out.
Doozku15 votesAssassins getting gutted? You mean like how they were a patch or two ago?
Troll for Trump3 votesIt's just 
is fine-ish
needs a tiny bit of number changes
is slightly less fine, but can be left alone
feels pretty sad.
Shaydrox12 votesIt's more like this:
Either feast or famine, rapes everyone or falls too far behind to be a factor
Slightly less feast or famine, but basically one of the most powerful junglers right now
Pretty well reworked, needs some number tuning as he's too weak at some parts of the game while oneshotting people at lvl 2
Finally people have caught on just how broken this champion is now, "high skillfloor/cap" with 51% winrate across the board, luckily her banrate is skyrocketing
Hidden OP in my opinion, but fair enough she's not wrecking badly right now
A mess of a rework, only made her weaker and more clunky to play, hopefully Riot will revert it or else we'll have to wait for the VGU I'm afraid...
koreansmurf87512 votesas someone whos played all of them, let me put my opinion and my rating in terms of balance and achieving riots goals, which were defined identities and not damn near instant burst (keep in mind im a gold/plat player, not a balance team member, so take it with a grain of salt)
i play him bruiser but no arguments to be made here 6/10 (longer burst, but not that defined)
doesnt feel that feast or famine to me, but in the jg, hes just too strong atm 7/10 (really honed on the isolation theme but a tad too strong)
play a LOT of talon, like the early game but the waveclear needs to be better or the crit scaling late game, if they just pick up one armor item, u cant burst them efficiently 7/10 (defined identity, longer burst, still good overall damage, falls off a bit too hard as mentioned above)
FUCK new leblanc. once people can figure her out (which is starting) its gunna be god awful to have her be a staple pick again 8.5/10 (as much as i hate to admit it, her rework was good in defining her and extending her burst, i think giving her her former huge weakness (waveclear) was kinda dumb tho)
does a lot of damage, but its telegraphed and shes more than just, let me jump in and see how much damage i can do 10/10 (best rework in my opinion, clear personality, kept the dagger theme, made her more viable and fun and less of, ¨hm, if i go in can i kill?¨ as compared to her having to set up now
they said it wasnt a rework, it was a change to extend her burst to keep her somewhat alive before her VGU, but i think her dash should be 1.5 no rating (wasnt a rework)
Supreme Senpai692 votesCan you imagine if they gave Talon waveclear? They nerfed Taliyah's Q for the same reason. Hyper mobile champions encouraged to roam to other lanes shouldn't also have waveclear. He doesn't have the waveclear but that's why he has his E.
koreansmurf87513 votesnonononono, you've got it wrong
his w is already enough waveclear, so I'm just saying buff the scaling a bit or the base dmg later so he can actually clear waves not almost clear waves.
not just give his kit more waveclear, that's fucking dumb XD
Supreme Senpai692 votesOH lmao. Okay that makes much more sense.
Baron Perenolde5 votesAnd yet Leblanc is getting nerfed for being too strong... And Rengar is permabanned... Shaco is doing well, Kha is strong, and the others aside from MAYBE Akali (I say maybe because I feel she hasn't been played enough) are doing fine. Assassin players need to stop crying already; yes Courage of the Colossus is busted and is making tanks and select others too strong, but this assassin circlejerk is getting to be as bad as the mage and support one.
Sraeg20134 votesWhat doesn't make sense is the fact that Vayne's Q is the only basic attack enchancing ability in the game which bonus damage crits.
Imagine if Draven's Q could crit.
Yeah.
Brain Errör 4041 votesWhy do people say draven's Q can't crit? I've thought this till I payed attention and it does too crit... maybe the multiplier for it critting is just low? Or his extra AD portion doesn't crit?
