The little bit I played him: for a Juggernaut, who has 2 self CC's, he doesn't have an up to pair damage -- let alone the huge CD on his passive early game...
Your thoughts on Urgot? I didn't play him much but even in UrgotMains people don't seem happy.
EDIT: He's great though, still feels cool to play with, you nailed it with the shotgun knees!
i don't like the way his Q works, it feels clunky
otherwise i think he's pretty decent tbh
I spammed him for atleast 20 games by now, and observed other high ranked streamers play him. My conclusion he is weak. Don't get me wrong. His laning phase is fairly strong and safe. It just doesn't do much for you, because he scales poorly. Even when I stomp lane I don't feel like Im very effective, and I lost some games on Urgot with kdas like 10/3, 10/4, when on most other champions I could hard carry with those scores. I tried standart bruiser build, lethality, tank, nothing works, the only thing I haven't tried yet is building Urgot as a drain tank with cleaver deaths dance and potentially bt, but I doubt thats gonna work any better. From my experience so far in his current state at best he is effective as a counterpick to other juggernauts that can't get away from him namely Darius, I think Im 5 wins 2 loses, in the Urgot vs Darius match up.
His 'lock on' just needs to last the full duration of his W. Then he would be ok.
I can't tell if he's actually strong since every Urgot I've seen rushes 
and 
fully intent on doing no damage all game.
Wow, people think the new champ is weak, what a surprise! That's certainly something that's never happened before!
I believe there's a bug with his lock-on that needs to be fixed, and everyone hates his Corrosive Charge because it's worthless early and is clunky due to the delay and blast radius.
There's also complaints about his ultimate having a weak-sauce execution range and piss-poor damage for its difficult projectile width and speed.
i've been playing him like crazy and i think i've found a new main
I don't think he's weak I just think he has an apppreciable skill cap as a juggernaut. if we're talking about buffs though the AD ratio on his Q could stand to be better and either improving the e hitbox or lessening the w slow would help him loads
alternatively you could make the ult last 4 seconds instead of 3 so he could have a chance of fully proccing his legs with w and then completing the cast. as it stands now he really only uses it to snipe because pb melee range casts when they have an appreciable amount of health doesn't always pay off
Personally I think the E delay is a bit too much.
Honestly, I think everything in his kit is fine and should not be touched EXCEPT for his passive.
Q- Does little damage, is purely used as a lock on tool and a slow early because you probably aren't maxing it first. W- Not great without E because of the self-slow, but if used right can do a lot of damage and is very high risk-high reward. E- Would be completely busted if the short delay wasn't there. Good job Rito. It doesn't provide too much mobility for someone like Urgot so it works. Great synergy with W. R- Very situational. Only used as a finisher and the health threshold is very fair. Chains on the screen make dying to it feel worth every time. XD
Passive- Too much damage >.< Lower it to 4% of max health and lower the early game cooldown.
Here in bronze land, everytime I play him, they all cry for nerfs and say he is broken lol
Is he supposed to be good? I thought he was meant as a joke champion not meant to be effective and played seriously
I have seen mixed bag success. And seems entirely dependent on the build he goes for and whether he is pushing for a mid game advantage or "trying to scale"
I do feel like when he is played right he is stupid strong though, but played poorly he is actually one of the most underwhelming champs.
QoL buff on his Q and E and maybe a slight damage nerf on his W
and when people figure out to (AA>E>)AA>Q>W to get the most value out of his Q (and make it easier to hit) for the duration on his W (cast the W before Q pops)
also 
is seldom bought but ridiculously strong on him, his Base AD is actually really high
made a whole post about it yes.
He's not weak, he's just hard to pull off.
If you can land the E and slow someone with Q and get a full circle around them with your W, you'll do 80% of most peoples' health, and then you can just ult them and finish them off.
He's just really slow and telegraphed, so it's hard to pull off.
I feel like he is fine, I have played 10 games with him and usually go something like 9/3/4
He is far from weak :S
i think people just suck at playing him
Hes quite timing & positioning sensitive, kind of like Sion, which is where people fall flat on their face since it takes a while to get used unless you have played similar champions before
I also see people build him wrong 90% of the time and taking the wrong keystones most of the time
I feel like he really struggles vs anyone tanky.
I played a game on where I had both BC and Mortal Reminder and I still couldn't damage tanky members.
I think he's balanced. Some matchups I got absolutely dicked and others I faired well
I have played him once in an ARAM and was not disappointed. It will take awhile for Urgot mains to adjust to the new Urgot, for one thing, so I wouldn't expect most of them to be happy with it right now.
He doesn't have quite the same burst as some of the other juggernauts, I think. It's an adjustment to get used to the "get close and do sustained carnage" model. Not many champs do that right now.
EDIT: He might also be a little weak, but it's safe to wait for buffs until people at least have a chance to learn how to play him.
Definitely not. Feels strong. Q definitely feels out of place though as it doesn't do too much and I'm pretty sure I could win a game without using Q once.
Q needs a larger radius or to do something other than a low amount of damage and an extremely short slow. W needs to allow him to rotate his legs.
His ult feels like shit, First It is a skill shot ult so you have to land it, If you did, the enemy must drop below 25%, if they did, you can recast, in that case they might die IF:
hes always been weak, you're supposed to just chunk people or clean up.
