Please don't rework Urgot

ArnoldSchwarzens··11 votes·1,320 views

I think with the item changes he is now finally in a state of viability. I personally love playing him and it would be a shame if we create a problem by changing him like with Morde or Darius or even eliminate his current identity like with Gragas or other reworks that changed the main role of the champion that received it.

The problems he had back in the day are mostly fixed now, at least from my perspective.

Lack of Itemization: Back in the day he had a problem with getting full CDR whith his full build and that he would be dependent on Frozen Heart for it. This build had the problem that he either lacks damage when building it early because he would only have Manamune as a damage item in his before that, or being not tanky enough early on because the old Black Cleaver gave next to no HP. With the changes to Black Cleaver being now half a tank Item and giving 20% CDR, Urgot now has a build that gives him Tankiness, Damage, Full CDR and durability without having a lack of any of these like in his old build. He can also complete his build better because with the Juggernaut Items like Sterak's Gage and Dead Man's Plate he has more Options than he used to have. Plus, the mana ratio on his W allows gives him an extra defensive component that he didn't used to have.

Ult is out of Place: Like mentioned above, back in the day People would go for a full offensive build ( except for Frozen Heart ) because of his lack of itemization and it was the best build available at the time. This build had a lot of problems. Since he has no mobility you would be easily caught and bursted. His ult surely was a good CC tool and still is, yet teleporting yourself in the enemy team while being extremely squishy almost guarentees you to be focused down and die. With the itemization he has right now though he can do all of that and live through it. Rather than being a lackluster ADC or some kind of AD Mage, he is now a ranged Bruiser like he's supposed to be. You gain Free MR and Armor that scale with the HP in your build, damage reduction from your passive and a mana scaling shield. Like that have the option to change your role of a backliner to a frontliner by pressing one button and dooming one member of the enemy to be slaughtered instead of being a lackluster tool to pick an enemy off that would eventually get you killed. His ult is amazing right now and fits him really well.

Too reliant on E: While it is true that hitting his E boosts his power by a lot, I call this one a myth. I thought the same when I started playing him yet you will get better at hitting it, and when you are used to it, hitting your Q without having an enemy marked with your E is fairly easy if you have learned how to aim it.

Does not fit into the Meta: He had problems with the assassin meta back in the day and was okay against the tank meta ( considering his shitty build options ) but right now he really excels in the Juggernaut Meta. After you have learned how to play him you will be able to bully those annoying Garens and Dariusses out of lane because they won't get in the range to actually damage you and in teamfights you have permanent slow, kiting damage and your amazing ult to control them. I recommend him as a toplane pick against anything that can be easily kited, though he requires some practise.

One last note, if any Rioter reads this I'd like you to look into the last changes he got. You were supposed to update the animation of his Q, and while it is updated on almost all of his skins, the Butcher Urgot skin still has the old Q animation. You also wanted to change it so that when you fire your Q shortly after your E it would turn into a lock-on mid-air instead of staying a skillshot. Well, that change is not actually on the live servers either.

10 Comments

Diatonix7 votes

Urgot, like many of the other things that have reworks on the table or have already been reworked, has an archaic kit. His abilities and his play style simply do not follow the direction RIot wants to take the game, so that is why he needs a rework.

Chogath Fiora Gangplank Karma Katarina Mordekaiser Nasus Poppy Taric Twitch Evelynn YorickUrgot

Fredart2 votes

Is the direction shit? cause thats what they're doing when the rework a champ, just shiting on them.

Remlap12235 votes

Ashe You're Darius right, Fiora not Gangplank one Garen single Rengar champ Ryze has Sion been Soraka reworked Gragas properly.

Remlap12235 votes

As someone who has been binge playing Urgod recently, I can say he needs a rework, without question. Anyone who has ever had the MissFortune of playing against Urgot top lane knows what I'm talking about. Basically Urgot builds tear, and then goes WEQQQQQQQQQ until you're dead.

You can't engage on him because his sheild and passive absorb all your damage, and you can't run away because of the ridiculous range of his acid hunters, stockpiled with the fucking armor shred and lock on acid hunters if he hit his corrosive charge on you.

He's a lane bully that has a late game build and an extremely out of place ultimate on a very toxic to play against kit. Without question, he needs that rework.

AMYS GRAVE3 votes

Urgot is my go to anti-assassin, i hope he doesn't get changed in the upcoming marksman update...

Chuck Charles3 votes

urgot is not being reworked because he isn't viable. which as you saw earlier this year, he clearly is. and still is, just the meta has changed and he's not a strong pick anymore. definitely viable though.

the issue is that his kit is incredibly lacking counterplay. you either dodge his E or don't. if he lands it you have one option and that is to run away. if he misses he has no option and you can go in on him. very boring for both sides. I imagine in a rework they will keep the spamming similar, while getting rid of the E/Q synergy lock on/targeted side of it. the ultimate I imagine would stay the same as well as it is a very useful ultimate.

Ulquiorra9951 votes

But how is that different than some other champions that Riot clearly accepts? Lee comes to mind as one - if you don't dodge his Q he can absolutely murder you with his crazy damage early or send you flying into enemy team late game. Difference being that Lee still has options (ward hop, which is PnC, and highest base MS combined with a potent slow to catch up) even if he misses his skillshot.

GastonBarnacles2 votes

Yeah dude you dont want him changed into something unrecognizable like sion.

khorney1 votes

there really isnt such a thinbg as a meta but okay, he needs a skin update on his battle cast. he is near impossible to beat 1v1 but okay he shreds armor and does alot of damage

Abelarka1 votes

Guys, go Urgot mid and try come back saying he isnt viable....and btw isn't thing such as this that make a game progress? He is ranged, but u cant properly call him an adc, he could be an off-tank, surely not like those tanky meleee toplaners..but yet he can fill in those roles. He is in and off the meta at the same time and thats what makes him unique and special! But please....if he is goin'to be reworked into that lame thing we can see in the "Ekko seconds" cinematic...pls Riot dont waste more time turning "The Headman's pride" into "Yet another no brain hulK" or "New Sion's copy". Peace and spam your Qs, you Urgots out there. Urgot Urgot Urgot

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