Legit question. Why do people get punished for holding the balance team accountable; aren't they the ones making all these detrimental changes to the game? If not, who's doing it? Why is the game getting worse by each new patch?
ModWulf Helhammer6 votesExcept everything you said in this post is according to your opinion, not necessarily reflective of the game population as a whole.
Milton Fletcher3 votestrue thats why every streamer has been quitting and complaining about the game but then again these people are only masters+ .
what would they know about balance and the games health amirite?
Death by Glamour4 votesgonna copy past something I posted to another thread, was concerning the "lol is dying" type of thread
its not dying but I cant really say that its clear that the game is growing
I remember these threads on the WoW forums aswell, "omg wow is dying" ect ect. People would make similar threads to this claiming "na everything is fine and dandy". Then the ingame shop appeared where you could buy mounts, transmog gear and now gold so I am told. depending on who you would ask this was or wasn't a last ditch cash grab from a dying game. Wow fell because of a number of things, disrespect of the pvp community that had enough of blizzard kicking them in the balls, casualization of PvE raids and dungeons in Wotlk, sheer boredom of it and likely because of the devs would make wild promises and fail to deliver. Likely also because of completion from the likes of Lol.
Ghostcrawler should know best of all, he presided over its downfall from gaming giant to that game a lot of us used to play. The devs currently are guilty of a lot of the things I have listed
For instance, they have made wild promises in the past to fix the game and yet here we are (various class updates). The latest being the whole "its preseason" meme. What did the actually do besides breaking the game and gutting sona? Now we are heading into the territory of wait till midseason, I cant wait to see how they mess this up and to those who will try to defend just look at the bloody track record.
I really do not know who the hell they are trying to appeal to with this new sort of gameplay, eastern markets? if I wanted to play a fast paced game I would be on battlerite, hots or overwatch. Why would I sit in a lane and farm, have one teamfight and end or watch lanes snowball and just end?
tldr the game very likely has lost a sizable amount of old school player but where its picking up new players from I have no idea
AirKingNeo5 votesstream numbers are going down for league
pro play is stagnant.
more and more high tier players are quitting
Sounds like downhill to me.
Milton Fletcher4 votesbecause no matter how many mistakes they make and how many times they fuck up, there will always be a group of players who hold them up like angels and claim they can do no wrong.
how in the world do you get paid to balance the game and yet zoe managed to make it out on live.
ask yourself this.
ardent censor took 6 months to be nerfed.
6 fucking months.
you want me to not call these people morons?
got me fucked up.
iPooUnicorns4 votesIt isn't wrong to be critical of the balance team, so long as the criticism is constructive. Calling them a bunch of silver idiots, useless, etc does nothing to help. Giving feedback on what you think needs to be changed about the game is helpful, and generally well received by Riot's balance team.
Odysseus2633 votestbh i'm at the point i'm just sitting here watching streamers quit becuase this new rioter thinks he can fuck around with champion balances better than what morello did. Morello actually understood how to balance the game around certain meta champions, not just brusiers who now can get 40% true damage for 3 seconds in their entire burst by just auto attacking for 4 seconds. Or how about the fact that zed jumped about 5.52% win rate and currently #1 most played mid laner inside of platinum and higher? What about the fact that mid gets camped 20x more since these last patches and it's harder to win because of bot lane getting fed by getting two items early and then the entire game is lost because your carry is 1k gold down and now being forced to feed by walking out of fountain because an enemy adc one shots them?
Jamaree4 votestbh i'm at the point i'm just sitting here watching streamers quit becuase this new rioter thinks he can fuck around with champion balances better than what morello did. Morello actually understood how to balance the game around certain meta champions, not just brusiers who now can get 40% true damage for 3 seconds in their entire burst by just auto attacking for 4 seconds. Or how about the fact that zed jumped about 5.52% win rate and currently #1 most played mid laner inside of platinum and higher? What about the fact that mid gets camped 20x more since these last patches and it's harder to win because of bot lane getting fed by getting two items early and then the entire game is lost because your carry is 1k gold down and now being forced to feed by walking out of fountain because an enemy adc one shots them?
I want to point out people called Morello a moron and not knowing what he was doing back when he was lead designer.
Odysseus2631 votesI agree people did call him that but at the time he was the only lead designer i knew from riot, none others. I started playing S5 and it was soooo much fun to play back then i actually could play the game instead of gray screen simulator.
Jamaree5 votesI agree people did call him that but at the time he was the only lead designer i knew from riot, none others. I started playing S5 and it was soooo much fun to play back then i actually could play the game instead of gray screen simulator.
When damage eventually get nerfed or tappered off, no one is allowed to complain about the longer games again, but who am I kidding, this community has such short term memory they will.
Odysseus2631 voteshonestly it isn't damage. i just want a decent meta. look at overwatch. blizzard touches it once a month tops and it's for bug fixes and shit like that. shit's perfect but here? nah. everything broken but mid lane power farmers :)
Jamaree5 voteshonestly it isn't damage. i just want a decent meta. look at overwatch. blizzard touches it once a month tops and it's for bug fixes and shit like that. shit's perfect but here? nah. everything broken but mid lane power farmers :)
Shit's perfect? Is that why High elo Tolbjorn and Symmetra mains get banned for being...high elo Tolbjorn and Symmetra mains?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/7c9i3t/fuey500s_ban_and_torbjorn/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SymmetraMains/comments/7cykw4/banned_for_playing_symmetra_roverwatch/
Have you been to their forums? There is JUST as much shit and uproar of the state of the game that there is here. JUST as much complaints on how meta is decided by pro play, and just as many problems.
Blåbæret2 votesShit's perfect? Is that why High elo Tolbjorn and Symmetra mains get banned for being...high elo Tolbjorn and Symmetra mains?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/7c9i3t/fuey500s_ban_and_torbjorn/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SymmetraMains/comments/7cykw4/banned_for_playing_symmetra_roverwatch/
Have you been to their forums? There is JUST as much shit and uproar of the state of the game that there is here. JUST as much complaints on how meta is decided by pro play, and just as many problems.
Overwatch is dead anywayz.
Generally tho, I'd say the current uprising in League is unlike anything we've seen before. The general dissatisfaction with the game seems (to me at least) to have skyrocketed. I too, feel like the game has been butchered hard for at least 2 years straight now. Riot seems to be willing to sacrifice their playerbase for the sake of pro play (which ironically is even shittier than ever before).
That's cool with me, but expect the game to be dead soon if this continues.
Jamaree4 votesOverwatch is dead anywayz.
Generally tho, I'd say the current uprising in League is unlike anything we've seen before. The general dissatisfaction with the game seems (to me at least) to have skyrocketed. I too, feel like the game has been butchered hard for at least 2 years straight now. Riot seems to be willing to sacrifice their playerbase for the sake of pro play (which ironically is even shittier than ever before).
That's cool with me, but expect the game to be dead soon if this continues.
Also been said every season, if it dies, it dies, let it.
Death by Glamour4 votesMorello made a shit tonne of mistakes, lets not try to sugar coat a shit by remembering all the good thing while forgetting about the bad.
But he knew what was bad for the game, that's the difference between him and repetoir
Odysseus2631 votesyes, i agree completely tbh. he was a great influence on the game when it came to balance and item changes. however he has made tons of mistakes like nerfing a champion too hard, like when they nerfed sona hard.
ZephyrDrake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P74Ajf3z,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-04-15T23:50:46.470+0000)
Morello made a shit tonne of mistakes, lets not try to sugar coat a shit by remembering all the good thing while forgetting about the bad.
But he knew what was bad for the game, that's the difference between him and repetoir
Yeah he knew what wad bad for the game that's why he kept making mistakes and doing things that were bad for the game.
Cynikul2 votestbh i'm at the point i'm just sitting here watching streamers quit because this new rioter thinks he can fuck around with champion balances better than what morello did. Morello actually understood how to balance the game around certain meta champions, not just brusiers who now can get 40% true damage for 3 seconds in their entire burst by just auto attacking for 4 seconds. Or how about the fact that zed jumped about 5.52% win rate and currently #1 most played mid laner inside of platinum and higher? What about the fact that mid gets camped 20x more since these last patches and it's harder to win because of bot lane getting fed by getting two items early and then the entire game is lost because your carry is 1k gold down and now being forced to feed by walking out of fountain because an enemy adc one shots them?
Wow, this is super insightful, and zed has a super high win rate in plat+, yikes! and jumped 5.52% win rate, that's insane!
Except, that this is actually annoying as fuck, not only because you're incorrect in quite literally everything you said, but it also wouldn't apply to your ranked.
Or how about the fact that zed jumped about 5.52% win rate
http://champion.gg/champion/Zed/Middle?league=platplus
Looks like a 1.53% increase (up from 49% previous patch). God forbid a champions win rate is +/- 1% of 50%! Also, basing a champions "strength" based solely on relative win is insane. This is why you're, and should not be, any part of "balance", your concept of it does not exist.
win rate and currently #1 most played mid laner inside of platinum and higher?
Only correct statement you said in about all of it. Who would have thought one of the most high skill-capped champions is still popular in high level gameplay solo queue? Weird that its always hovered 3-5% pick rate. Hmm....
What about the fact that mid gets camped 20x more since these last patch
Yikes, I have not run into this issue. I mean I get hard camped sometimes, got 100% banned out in clash. You know, if that was true, then your jungler must also be there too, ya know cuz its being camped 20x more. Since the inverse must be true too, logic works forwards and backwards. Or were you just looking to scapegoat your own reasons why you cannot climb?
So what ranked are you exactly, I mean you're posting about plat+ winrate so I presume you're talking about your own rank? Because that would be insane to postulate an argument based off of something that is other than your own rank? Hmm... what would be the right word for this... Pandering? Hmm, close, note quite, but trying to pull numbers from an area of gameplay that you aren't even close to your own shows absolute bias and absolutely no understanding of objectivity (which, someone working on balance should obviously be without bias here). The fact that you did this shows your lack thereof.
So its weird, when I realize that everybody else is capable of being successful and I'm not in life, then that's a time to self-reflect. Maybe, just maybe its not them or "the world holding MEH DOWN". Maybe its me. HMMMM? Ya get my jive here or do I need to spell it out [sg-miss-fortune]
AirKingNeo2 votes"40% true damage"
When did 20% double?
Warlord Scrap1 votesits not so much the holding them accountable part so much as the way people go about and do it.
Speaking of which why hasnt there been a gameplay thoughts in like 2 weeks?
ModWulf Helhammer4 votesMeddler went out of town (or at least not in the office). Said he'd be back mid-April (so posts will likely start back up tomorrow)
Warlord Scrap1 votesthank you
Milton Fletcher2 votesmeddler is busy trying to figure out which lovetap he can give to janna in order to keep the support mains and the bot lane mains pleased.