Can we make Charm remove bonus movement speed for the duration?

Yenn·Mar 6, 2018·20 votes·1,497 views

Super fun when I try to team fight an Ahri or Eve as Cassiopeia and get charmed during my ult animation lock, then run into the entire enemy team at 900 MS because of Phase Rush + Q.

33 Comments

Super SandmanneMar 6, 201812 votes

Can we also not make yi sprint straight to the charmer lmao

NineTailedMysticMar 6, 20183 votes

He already doesn't.

JustMonika13Mar 6, 20187 votes

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He already doesn't.

He does?

NineTailedMysticMar 6, 20182 votes

Unless they changed it, because before, Ahri's Charm did "slow" Yi while in Highlander.

KanzlerMar 6, 20181 votes

Maybe 10 years ago, but highlander has resisted the slow since forever

NineTailedMysticMar 6, 20181 votes

The thing is, is that Charm "sets" their MS, rather than being a slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx9tmsYhiQ4

If you look at Yi's MS in this video, you can clearly see his MS being set to 205 before he dies even with Highlander still active and it was season 7.

Odysseus263Mar 6, 20185 votes

Buy QSS. Don't ask for something like that, as reasonable as it sounds i feel like it is completely fine the way it is. You went phase rush and your q gives you bonus movement speed, charm shouldn't disable the movement speed for the same reason they shouldn't be unstunned. It is CC with a buff you applied on yourself. Sorry if it sounds like i'm being mean, i'm trying to show my point of view is all.

RexxieeMar 6, 20185 votes

Ahri would need compensation buffs for that.

130xMar 6, 20185 votes

Ahri is weak, leave her alone. Learn to dodge for f sake

SalronMar 6, 20181 votes

In a 1v1 scenario that can also be really bad for Ahri if she wants to keep her distance

SteelflameMar 6, 20184 votes

Same basic thing for Terrify. Also, it isn't that it isn't removing bonus MS (All charms and fears slow you) its that Phase Rush/Slow immunity in general makes you resist the slow entirely from charms and Terrifies that is supposed to lock you to only going a few hundred units at best.

Trist mid opopMar 6, 20187 votes

I like that yi runs superfast away from me when i fear as fiddle

Ahri Body PillowMar 6, 20183 votes

Please stop nerfing Ahri's charm. If you can't dodge charm with 600 ms, you deserve to die.

Zone of EndlessMar 6, 20182 votes

I thought charm was unique in that it always forces you to slow down to walk even if you have slow resist or not. Maybe it's a bug?

NineTailedMysticMar 6, 20181 votes

It's inconsistent. Yi does slow down when Charmed, but Phase Rush (and formerly Stormraider's) ignore the set MS Charm gives.

Ahri BakaMar 6, 20182 votes

No we can't , it's a skillshot after all

ValyrianBladeMar 6, 20182 votes

Hitting someone while they're locked in animation is a skillful move on their part...

Your choosing to use an ability that will lead to this result when their charm is available is a lack of skill.

Why are we supporting a change here?

Meanwhile it's be an unfair buff to ahri's kiting in most other cases (removing MS from boots or zeal while charmed, to make them even slower...).

The DeckownerMar 6, 20182 votes

Don't you think it's kind of your fault that you get hit by a charm while having 900 movementspeed?

YennMar 7, 20181 votes

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Don't you think it's kind of your fault that you get hit by a charm while having 900 movementspeed?

Yes, because I can move to side step a charm during the extremely long casting animation of my ult. Which is generally also what procs Phase Rush in team fights.

Spoilers: I can't

The DeckownerMar 7, 20181 votes

So Ahri predicted/reacted to your ult and used her charm while you were casting, she played it well, and she probably had to face you withhe cast of charm and get stunned. Itwill simply unfair when Ahri attacked you at your weak point and don't get reward for it. The cast animation of Cassio R is one of theintended counterplay, you are basically asking for not getting punished when the enemy lands their cc on you.

BjørnetjenestenMar 8, 20181 votes

Reward should be a charm, moving towards enemies thats fine. Whats not cool is that cassios own kit/runes work against her. It has nothing to do with prediction or ahri at all in fact. Just a champions kit is supposed to work with them, not against them.

The DeckownerMar 8, 20181 votes

I don't see MasterYi complaining.

Sex Crazed EveMar 6, 20181 votes

Sounds reasonable

WolfeurMar 6, 20181 votes

From the wikia

The enemy movement speed reduction is fixed for the duration meaning ghosting or further slowing the target will have no effect
Highlander will not resist it.

Flavi KangMar 6, 20181 votes

This has not been corrected in the wikia yet. I main Yi and I can confirm that Highlander resists slows from charms too.

KhristophorosMar 6, 20181 votes

This is unique to stacking slow resist vs charms/fears so basically only while phase rush + other slow resists are all active.

They should fix it though. Phase Rush is supposed to help you against CC, not make it worse.

btw I know everyone always asks you for a replay, but that situation sounds hilarious so can you please post it?

2Charmnot2CharmMar 6, 20182 votes

Phase Rush is supposed to help you against CC

And it does by giving you all the movespeed to dodge skillshot cc :^)

wildfox99Mar 6, 20181 votes

it's a strange interaction,charm already slows you by 50%,but since you are immune to slows it doesn't work...but if they are hitting you while you have a movement speed burst they either had luck or they were good,i don't see any problem with that

if it really become a problem just make the charm set your movement speed at X value,but it would be unfair for the charm users since as i said they (especially ahri) are hitting you while you have 600+ movement speed, if you can't dodge don't complain about it

Professor WardMar 6, 20181 votes

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it's a strange interaction,charm already slows you by 50%,but since you are immune to slows it doesn't work...but if they are hitting you while you have a movement speed burst they either had luck or they were good,i don't see any problem with that

if it really become a problem just make the charm set your movement speed at X value,but it would be unfair for the charm users since as i said they (especially ahri) are hitting you while you have 600+ movement speed, if you can't dodge don't complain about it

people who say things like "if you cant dodge dont complain" deserve to have every skillshot in game 1shot them for 100 games post statement.