Azir is lower win rate than Ryze

blfUvZ8Ybu··2 votes·789 views

Nice balance Riot.Congratulations!

Adding;Lee sin %46,Lb %46 Ori %47,Viktor %48,Cass %46,Riven %48 but Azir %42.5 or %43.Sorry.This isn't sensible.

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AHeroNamedHawke3 votes

That's to be expected

Azir is easily the highest skillcap champion in the game, only reached by pros in 0 ping environments. Riot actually did a good job with their last change, making his WEQ combo more accessible to the layman

It's hard to nerf a champion that complex for competitive while keeping him playable in solo queue

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P3xQgciG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-23T11:34:08.330+0000)

That's to be expected

Azir is easily the highest skillcap champion in the game, only reached by pros in 0 ping environments. Riot actually did a good job with their last change, making his WEQ combo more accessible to the layman

It's hard to nerf a champion that complex for competitive while keeping him playable in solo queue

Only highest skillcap.It is a far cry from.Even Easyhoon,Rookie,Coco or other players didn't pick him or play anywhere.Because he is so weak at this point.Riot logic;Azir is highest skillcap so we must get nerf him.His all matchup is very bad.He hasn't positive win rate matchups.He needs buffs because this win rate unacceptable.

Lord Azır1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P3xQgciG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-23T11:34:08.330+0000)

Azir is easily the highest skillcap champion in the game, only reached by pros in 0 ping environments. Riot actually did a good job with their last change, making his WEQ combo more accessible to the layman

Are you for real? It's really not as hard as people seem to think. If you play enough Azir games it literately feels the exact same as playing a ADC. 0 ping is complete BS aswell.

weeaboomer2 votes

Delete ryze until his rework. I'm sure nobody will miss him.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tobi Only Sways,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P3xQgciG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-23T11:26:00.175+0000)

Delete ryze until his rework. I'm sure nobody will miss him.

I don't agree.Yes,true Ryze is broken because his kit but each champion is important for this game.Ryze isn't a problem.My problem is game balance.People say Azir is fine.Absurd.Then why Azir didn't pick competitive or soloq? Absolutely he is garbage and needs a lot buffs.

lilpokfluf2 votes

I would say that since a lot of games tend to be shorter azir never gets a chance to reach his potential power

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I would say that since a lot of games tend to be shorter azir never gets a chance to reach his potential power

Yes.Unfortunately.He needs early game power.So Riot must be buff his early game.

SS Enforcer1 votes

Absolutely nothing says that Azir has to be stronger than ryze.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=SS Meraxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P3xQgciG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-23T11:12:11.547+0000)

Absolutely nothing says that Azir has to be stronger than ryze.

But we are saying Azir needs buffs.However Riot doesn't care about.

SS Enforcer1 votes

Then why isn't the name of the thread "Azir is in need of some buffs" instead of this? Putting ryze in the title makes no sense.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=SS Meraxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P3xQgciG,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-23T11:20:16.999+0000)

Then why isn't the name of the thread "Azir is in need of some buffs" instead of this? Putting ryze in the title makes no sense.

Reason;Ban and pick rate in competitive or game balance.Is it sensible?

Woodsy25751 votes

Azir is hard to play of course he's got low winrate

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Azir is hard to play of course he's got low winrate

Silly.I don't agree.There is no such thing with difficult.Your arguments are old and same.Also Azir is easier than old Azir.So his win rate must be %47 or %48.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Champion.gg says that Ryze Fiddlesticks Gragas Nunu are in bigger need of help. Especially Nunu who sits on pathethic winrate for months.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Champion.gg says that Ryze Fiddlesticks Gragas Nunu are in bigger need of help. Especially Nunu who sits on pathethic winrate for months.

You looked only mid lane win rate,also you look top lane(ryze) jungler (gragas and nunu) win rates.Azir is lower win rate than this champions.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Oh, you are right, I'm sorry.

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