People who don't play supports and don't know what supports do or build should shut the hell up.

Lost R··3 votes·611 views

I am tired of every little shit mongrel that wants to autotilt themselves and sabotage every game I'm in because they think a Janna building AP is being a fucking troll.

If they want to bitch about it, THEY should be forced to be the support.

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Guyy Fieri2 votes

Define building Janna AP. If you mean the Ardent Censor/Athene's/Zeke's Harbinger route then sure build AP on Janna. If you're talking Deathcap, Luden's Echo, etc then no.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Generally, I see Janna's building Ardent Censor + Mejai for AP followed by tank/utility items.

In this case, it looks like the OP built Deathcap and Luden's Echo on her.

Lost R1 votes

I build Deathcap and Luden to max out her movement speed and AP. Her shield gives bonus attack damage, and THAT number scales off of AP, and more often than not, I'm in games full of AD melee assassins, where attack damage is the ONLY stat that matters to them. By the endgame, my shield gives about 90-100 bonus AD and upwards of 500-600 shields. And with my build, I can cast it almost as soon as it ends.

I don't build Harbinger anymore because people don't know what it does, and they squander the bonus on something stupid like a jungle camp or a minion when the enemy is RIGHT THERE.

Guyy Fieri1 votes

Well if I were playing with you, I know I wouldn't be very happy about you building deathcap and Janna. I understand your logic but but supports just don't get the income needed for that to be an efficient build path

Lost R1 votes

I normally have to do things most supports would never be doing in a quintillion lifetimes, from pushing and defending every lane, sabotaging the enemy jungle, contesting baron AND dragon at the same time, destroying the enemy inhibitor, killing enemy champions, destroying enemy wards, warding every bush, and trying to stave off my entire team from committing suicide while they contend with soul-annihilating depression.

And those are just the GOOD games. I'm not going to play second banana to that.

Guyy Fieri2 votes

You wanna know what I say to that??? Then don't play support, play mid lane. You have the wrong mentality for that position. Can supports carry games, yes, but not through damage (I recognize there are some viable counters to that like Vel'koz or Brand but Janna is not a damage support). Supports carry games through their utility. Landing skillshots to CC people, giving shields/heals at the right time that type of stuff. You sound to me like someone who wants to play mid but doesn't want to wait longer in queue so you put support and just play like a mid laner. Sure it can work in Bronze/Silver, but you'll never climb consistently doing that. Better players will just punish that style of play. But hey what do I know

Requiemsfire1 votes

Shields for daaays.

Manwalrus1 votes

Here's some advice from a platinum 2 support main who knows what supports do and build. You shouldn't fucking play AP Janna

PermabannedGaren1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2316604766/42559436?tab=overview

I'm thinking you're the one who doesn't know what supports do or build friend.

Dcolewizard2 votes

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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2316604766/42559436?tab=overview

I'm thinking you're the one who doesn't know what supports do or build friend.

Even with your full AP build pretty much, you still did the least amount of damage in the game, janna is not a damage dealing champ. Sure AP Janna might work for like bronze level of play, its no where near gold+.

Chamuel851 votes

Don't you build AP Janna for the huge shield and massive AD bonus?

Dcolewizard1 votes

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Don't you build AP Janna for the huge shield and massive AD bonus?

the shield is 70% of her AP while the AD bonus is only 10% of her AP. The shield would be nice yes, but the damage isn't that great but you are pouring all these resources into 1 shield like a 1 trick pony, after that she is kinda useless if you go that route.

Lost R1 votes

And yet entire teams will go all AD melee assassin for three years and no one has batted an eye.

It continues to support my thesis that every other role drowns in endless privileges while the support has to carry all the slack.

Dcolewizard1 votes

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And yet entire teams will go all AD melee assassin for three years and no one has batted an eye.

It continues to support my thesis that every other role drowns in endless privileges while the support has to carry all the slack.

Well no, supports can be a huge variety of champions, ive seen shen, yasuo, veigar, practically any champ with one form of cc can pretty much support. The problem lies in the build and whats most effective. While a support your gold income is significantly less than everyone elses. So with janna while she does scale off of AP it hinders her more than not because you are focusing on the output of her abilities rather than the utility of her kit. If you want to go a more aggressive AP build for your support, I would recommend a different champion that relies more on "poke".

Aptest1 votes

What makes me laugh the most is, when i am playing a targon support, i don't have any targon stacks and they ping a minion.

"here you can have that one, have a handout" "just chill, and keep on farming, mate"

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Whenever I want to kill a minion with Relic Shield, I ping it and walk towards it.

They tend to learn pretty quickly when I'm doing.

6Sfool1 votes

Or, the more common situation, mid game you have 4 stacks and your jinx refuses to let you proc even one. And then she gives you a look like:[slayer-jinx-wink]

Chalizard1 votes

I doubt if it works, I always go ap zilean, ap lulu, lightning bard and people don't flame me so I guess it might be also not your build fault :P

Zoshiro1 votes

So if you feel that you should shut up, why are you making this post, and talking so much? Not only are you building a terrible support, your actual AP build is even worse...the items you should be taking are not rabadons, or Ludens echo...at least get a item 3040 or item 3151 items that synergize with ap Janna...you already have plenty of run speed, and pure AP doesn't scale so well that you need to get a Rabadon for her...also, I don't see a defensive item in like 100 games of yours...instead of the deathcap, build a rod early...rod and angel staff are great for her.

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