So we had AP Shaco building 
one shotting people from 4.5 seconds of invisibility in under half a second before
Now we have AD Shaco building 
and doing the same thing and you cant even stop him because he has that spell shield coming out of stealth
https://na.op.gg/champion/shaco/statistics/jungle
Back to a 55.5% win rate. I give it a few weeks max until people start catching on
meowwow74 votesand not just that but since 
don't reveal him in q he can now go wherever he wants without worry
dunder kill1 votesOh I know. Give it a few weeks before the boards are going nuts over him again
Unreformed Shaco4 votesYou're a fucking Wukong player in the lethality meta crying about initiating from stealth.
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dunder kill2 votesYeah dude 1.5 seconds of stealth is the same as 4.5 attached to a flash
ChickenWrap1 votesNo, because Shaco's Q has a shorter cast range than flash.
1.5 seconds is about a Flash with a range of 475, at best. Could you imagine someone like old Warwick flashing into lane every time he ganked because he has no way to reach people and no reliable CC?
It didn't happen.
dunder kill1 votesLol what?
1.5 seconds is about a Flash with a range of 475,
Not sure if if you're trolling or not. Its not a gapcloser. Flash is instantaneous and can clear walls. I really don't give a shit if they take invisibility down, Wukong included.
ChickenWrap1 votes400 range + 1.5 seconds of movement without boots is really not any kind of a gapcloser.
Unreformed Shaco1 votesOracles shows where he goes.
Shimmer shows where he goes.
ChickenWrap3 votesgiant poof of smoke tells you he's coming.
meowwow71 votesOracles shows where he goes.
Shimmer shows where he goes.
and that's the thing if they do manage to land a skill shot on him after q and oracles lens isn't up over half the time even with rss*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*
Unreformed Shaco1 votesAny damage taken while in stealth shimmers.
Minions. DoTs. AoE.
And as for oracles... You see the bright fucking orange puff of smoke and you use oracles. Shaco is now useless, since most CC is not click to target.
ChickenWrap2 votesAt least Shaco's ass-tier useless garbage until he has Duskblade and IE though, which are two huge item purchases so you don't have to worry about him even being in the game until 20+ minutes whereas Kha'Zix Rengar Talon and Zed do the exact same thing and you can barely react to it either, except they pop off at level 3 and Shaco does not.
Not to mention Shaco can't build tons of tank items and still do lots of damage, unlike both Kha and Rengar.
Unreformed Shaco1 votesAlso forgetting that Cancer'Zix gets a leap reset on kill/assist, so he can escape after he kills someone.
Shaco has no choice but to all in.
Dasdi961 votesAt least Shaco's ass-tier useless garbage until he has Duskblade and IE though, which are two huge item purchases so you don't have to worry about him even being in the game until 20+ minutes whereas Kha'Zix Rengar Talon and Zed do the exact same thing and you can barely react to it either, except they pop off at level 3 and Shaco does not.
Not to mention Shaco can't build tons of tank items and still do lots of damage, unlike both Kha and Rengar.
As shaco, you need to be applying pressure from level 3 onward. If you are afk farming as shaco, you are doing it wrong.
zarxus12341 votesAs shaco, you need to be applying pressure from level 3 onward. If you are afk farming as shaco, you are doing it wrong.
nope shaco early game is such trash..... farming a bit to get items to get a strong mid game is the way to go.
ChickenWrap2 votesYou mean 4 onward, right? You can't gank at level 3, your Deceive is too short.
But no, you want to farm as much as you can, ganking only when it's convenient otherwise you're not going to get what you need to get.
I know you have your opinion and that's fine but maybe it's better to listen to a 7 year Diamond Shaco main player on this one, compared to a Bronze 4 that never plays him, huh?
crzymdscntst2 votesI once won a game as Shaco by being annoying, not good.
I bought 
and then just spent the entire game hitting up lanes and getting them to chase me.
I wasted so much of their time that my team pushed the lanes to a victory.
My team said I was trolling.
Why is this relevant? Because Shaco still is the same thing in essence. You can win without those items equally. If your issue is the 100-to-0, it's definitely not the only champ and coincidence is not a thing. Every single champion lately I've seen people complain about in recent days has been using Lethality in example after example. It might be a red herring of another composite issue.
(Duskblade causes vision issues, you can't always read a duskblade-killed ward in a second via the minimap.) (Edge gives movespeed, which allows a quicker in.) (Edge has a shield, causing irrational durability despite countering the surprise attack correctly.) (Duskblade causes assassins to deal true damage on their first hit.) (Assuming IE in your example, Edge and Duskblade give 125 AD, increasing to 195 AD with IE. It can Crit for +50% crit damage.)
Composite issues happen more frequently than people think. Mages are at a not-so-high point in my opinion. (Again why relevant?) I see a lot of micro-issues that composite into a larger issue that manifests in things such as mages being used as supports more recently.
So, with the above as a consideration:
What do you propose? Nerf Shaco? That's still not really fixing the issue, it's creating an issue for Shaco while the micro-issues remain.
Unreformed Shaco1 votesIt is because they nerfed the wrong thing.
"He is abusing artificial ap scaling items, lets nerf the scalings on his skills so he HAS to be build these artificial ones"
He has a strong mid game to make up for his garbage early and garbage late. (AP)
Build one defensive item and he won't be a nuisance.
ChickenWrap2 votesHe only even has a strong mid-game right now because of Lethality abuse.
Shaco is a champion who scales with nothing but gold which is bullshit because he's an assassin that can't kill people until late-game.
When people bitched about AP Shaco, they refused to even think about buying Edge of Night or Banshee's Veil and it's like... Really? The power to shut him down is in your hands and you're choosing not to because... Why, exactly?
meowwow71 votesok here is the kicker if you see a poof in the bush because of warding then there is a couple things to consider
and before you say something about shimmer in this meta you see mostly assassins and most assassins don't have aoe damage
Filthy Rank1 votesthey badly nerfed shaco (like the E ap ratio, when the balanced old shaco had 100-120%), he is even more item dependant then before. they should revert back the E nerf and maybe think about nerfed his Q or items.