Make conqueror give the same AP value as AD.

Anime Fizz·12/29/2019, 8:46:19 AM·2 votes·1,587 views

I really dont get it, why does it give more AP than AD when ap/magic damage is already a better stat? champions have less than half MR than they do compared to armor as base stat alone, and then you see how all the MR items are trash in the game and voidstaff exists so theres no real way to stop the healing (No item such as an MR thornmail or even old force of nature).

Honestly i think in general the adptatitive thing should be much more close if not just 1:1 with both ap and ad, ap as a stat got much better over the years they dont need this bump on everything that has "adaptative" on it, every champ has lower cds, 40/45% on every builld, infinite mana and damage is higher than ever.

And you wonder why all the best users of this rune are all ap champs? It should give 35 AD OR 35 AP, scrap the adptative bullshit, or maybe make it give AD only i just think its wrong for ap champs to use this rune its gives too much sustain for champs that arent even supposed to have it.

"BUT MORDE IS AN AP BRUISER AND BLAH BLAH BLAH" Maybe if he couldnt abuse conqueror as hard then he wouldnt be so fking broken and faceroll like he is right now, let him use grasp or whatever other ap rune that exists in the game (theres tons of runes for ap champs already btw).

26 Comments

The thigh guy12/29/2019, 10:47:15 AM7 votes

No. Ad and ap are NOT equal in value in the slightest.

If an item gave 120 ad it would be by miles the best item in the game.

Fun fact. The ap item I’m talking about gives even more than that and isn’t even close to the best item in the game.

DuskDaUmbreon12/29/2019, 9:01:49 AM6 votes

Because AD is generally more effective than AP on a point per point basis. That's why.

Paroe12/29/2019, 10:37:01 AM5 votes

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I really dont get it, why does it give more AP than AD when ap/magic damage is already a better stat?

item 1036 = 1AD per 35g item 1052 1AP per 22g

Conq gives; 30AD = 1050g 50AP = 1100g

The reason why conq gives more AP is because AP is simply worth less. AP is also intended to be the burst damage scaling. If you wanted to eqaulize AP and AD amounts or gold efficiency, you would have to do a global pass on all AP ratios to increase them to a minimum of 0.6 with all ratios already above 60% being increased by 0.1.

JackMcCarry12/29/2019, 11:36:51 AM2 votes

AD is active on every AA and every AD ability, giving it 100% uptime.

AP is "active" only when your abilities are off CD and you actually hit them.

They are not treated the same because they are not the same.

King Lego12/29/2019, 11:39:31 AM2 votes

Conqueror was never meant for AP champions to begin with. Sure it works for for some AP but in general is meant for AD champs just like how comet is meant for poke champions.

And why should conqueror give the same AP anyway? You main Fizz. That fish doesn't even have the means to proc that rune to begin with and the best runes for him is either phase rush, dark harvest and Electrocute.

AP and AD don't work the same way. You should know better than this and suggesting such a thing about conqueror will make AP far more powerful than they should be. This just makes you look biased af.

WoonStruck12/29/2019, 6:48:10 PM1 votes

The only benefit of lowering AP or removing entirely is to prove to bruiser mains that the rune itself is an issue, not just AP champions using it.