Firstly buy a 
and a 
or don't bother going back to lane once he hits six.
Duskblade assassins.. stop walking away from the shrooms your duskblade reveals ty.
And what counters temp? Aoe and bursting. This shouldn't be that hard people.
Basura Nephilim4 votesI really enjoy being able to clear 3 shrooms before sweeper goes down Before it is up I walk through 6 more of 500 dmg each. As a bruiser with a few mres items.
Invisible high dmg long lastig traps on a fairly low CD are just a problem in the current state of items and detection. Somewhere there is a huge sacrifice to be made. Like the whole team has to get sweepers or something, sacrificing vision etc. It's just not a healthy influence on the game imho.
CaptainAntiHeroz2 votes[{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OjRX7GvQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-10T14:17:14.395+0000)
I really enjoy being able to clear 3 shrooms before sweeper goes down Before it is up I walk through 6 more of 500 dmg each. As a bruiser with a few mres items.
Invisible high dmg long lastig traps on a fairly low CD are just a problem in the current state of items and detection.
Igenious Hunter is your best bet, Oracle is an active item and if you build sightstone Ruby sightstone reduce active item cdr by 20%
Basura Nephilim2 votesyou're not wrong, in that you CAN do something.
and I also pointed out you can do SOMETHING.
It just feels like a bandaid on a huge gaping wound you know? The solutions aren't effective enough to adress the problem to a really useful degree. Or the solutions have a lot of potential downsides / take away meaningful choice.
But hey, that's just my opinion, and we could talk about opinions and reasoning all day. Just thought i'd clarify a bit.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OjRX7GvQ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T12:26:21.079+0000)
you're not wrong, in that you CAN do something.
and I also pointed out you can do SOMETHING.
It just feels like a bandaid on a huge gaping wound you know? The solutions aren't effective enough to adress the problem to a really useful degree. Or the solutions have a lot of potential downsides / take away meaningful choice.
But hey, that's just my opinion, and we could talk about opinions and reasoning all day. Just thought i'd clarify a bit.
Yeah I guess that makes sense My bad if I came off rudely
FOR JUSTICE2 votesI like how when teemo is actually a legitimate meta pick for once in his life, everyone complains about it.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesI like how when teemo is actually a legitimate meta pick for once in his life, everyone complains about it.
Lol as someone who one tricked him for a while he always had a place, but no one knows how to deal with him, so it's like whatever you use with him is an eye opening experience for some poor top laner.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesPut it on the right boards this time, maybe next we'll have to explain support items. [sg-ahri-3] Get that dorans ring lux outta my lane.
Eedat1 votesThis can't be real
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesThis can't be real
How so?
Eedat2 votesIn what world do you live in that Teemo is going let you just stroll up and clear his mushrooms? Am I supposed to sacrifice 1/3 of my HP per shroom then call "worth" or what? Besides, Teemo is a lane bully even without the shrooms
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesIn what world do you live in that Teemo is going let you just stroll up and clear his mushrooms? Am I supposed to sacrifice 1/3 of my HP per shroom then call "worth" or what? Besides, Teemo is a lane bully even without the shrooms
Is called play Garen or Mundo Or a mage.... Zoe kills Teemo pretty easily You've got to realize Teemo can't really rush lifesteal without sacrificing damage, so like nasus, just gank him presix to keep him from getting liandrys so he can't then buy a gunblade, meaning he loses all sustain. Most teemos think shrooms substitute wards, and while they do proc duskblade they have much smaller radiuses. And blinding shot doesn't stop aoe or (most) abilities from hitting so amumu, renekton, a patient nasus, and most juggernauts shouldn't be struggling this much Tryndamere yes, Darius no, like literally just buy adaptive helm and walk at him, q to heal back up apprehend then the blind should be over. As for tryndamere, just out sustain him and make it to snowball off his carries because he isn't a front line like tryndamere and trynd always has 5 seconds at least The main thing is don't feed him, force him to push then get him from behind because he only has w and sometimes flash to escape, so if your a fed or talon with duskblade, gank him, it's practically free.
Eedat1 votesApparently the Teemos you play against just stand in one spot auto attacking and just let you walk up to them lol. You're actually saying Darius, Renekton, and Nasus do well against Teemo kek
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesApparently the Teemos you play against just stand in one spot auto attacking and just let you walk up to them lol. You're actually saying Darius, Renekton, and Nasus do well against Teemo kek
I play Teemo, I get how the match up works, your assuming I'm saying just go in and try to kill him but that's literally the opposite of what you should do, he'll either buy shield or ring for Mana or hp sustain meaning as long as you manage resources better, you win
Eedat1 votesWhat resources does he have to manage exactly? The majority of his damage comes from AAs + E + Aery all of which require none lol
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesWhat resources does he have to manage exactly? The majority of his damage comes from AAs + E + Aery all of which require none lol
When you walk up to Teemo as a bruiser or juggernaut he'll use w or q, placing shrooms takes a lot of Mana which liandrys does not provide, so if you clear a shroom he'll have to replace it and since most don't rush Mana items 75 Mana is quite a lot, it's literally only survive long enough for you to be able to force him out of landed take the tower then be more impactful in team fights than he could ever be
Eedat1 votesNo he doesn't lol. He doesn't have to press W to kite you out if you just walk at him. He legit just has to orbwalk away and you get destroyed. Teemo has absolutely zero mana problems. If you do gapcloser onto him then he'll just blind you making your next 2-3 AAs useless while you get smashed by him and his minion wave.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesNo he doesn't lol. He doesn't have to press W to kite you out if you just walk at him. He legit just has to orbwalk away and you get destroyed. Teemo has absolutely zero mana problems. If you do gapcloser onto him then he'll just blind you making your next 2-3 AAs useless while you get smashed by him and his minion wave.
If you really think Teemo kiting is so amazing then just play 
, the counterstrike stalls his autos so u can get unblinded and it has cc, honestly if you aren't destroying a aggressive Teemo early game as Darius though your doing something wrong.
Eedat2 votesJax actually does ok against Teemo but the fact that you think Darius beats Teemo kind of illustrates you have no idea what you're talking about or that the Teemos you play with are complete dogshit at the champ
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesJax actually does ok against Teemo but the fact that you think Darius beats Teemo kind of illustrates you have no idea what you're talking about or that the Teemos you play with are complete dogshit at the champ
Either you don't know how abilities and ganks work or you prefer the "top lane is a island" but in reality Darius Q E combo eats the blind duration I'd suggest building magic resistances because if you can't survive Teemo as Darius there is an issue
Eedat1 votesThere is nothing you can do to a Teemo player who isn't complete trash at the champion. First, Teemo has to let you get into range to grab him. You realize Teemo gets passive move speed from his W even when it's not activated right? Second, if you do grab him, legit all he has to do is press Q to completely negate your AA>W combo then take a few steps back and turn on you and there isn't jack shit you can do about it. BONUS: you just touched your Q key on Darius which means you just shoved the wave to him. Now he freezes it which makes you free food for the jungler
If you're losing to Darius as Teemo you're just complete trash at the champion sorry. I kind of knew that already though when you said Darius and Renekton beat Teemo. Learn to not walk into to them when Q is on CD pls
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesThere is nothing you can do to a Teemo player who isn't complete trash at the champion. First, Teemo has to let you get into range to grab him. You realize Teemo gets passive move speed from his W even when it's not activated right? Second, if you do grab him, legit all he has to do is press Q to completely negate your AA>W combo then take a few steps back and turn on you and there isn't jack shit you can do about it. BONUS: you just touched your Q key on Darius which means you just shoved the wave to him. Now he freezes it which makes you free food for the jungler
If you're losing to Darius as Teemo you're just complete trash at the champion sorry. I kind of knew that already though when you said Darius and Renekton beat Teemo. Learn to not walk into to them when Q is on CD pls
First black cleaver .... MS passively, and righteous glory if you really need it. But really just hexdrinker and adaptive helm with Deadmans plate and whatever boots you need [darius-angry] Nothing but dunk
Eedat1 voteshttp://na.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top
Oh look. Guess who is in Darius' top counters? 
http://na.op.gg/champion/renekton/statistics/top
Guess which champ Renekton has a 40% winrate against?
But somehow both these champs counter Teemo right?
HalcyonDweller1 voteshttp://na.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top
Oh look. Guess who is in Darius' top counters?
http://na.op.gg/champion/renekton/statistics/top
Guess which champ Renekton has a 40% winrate against?
But somehow both these champs counter Teemo right?
You're completely right, but you also ran out of reply space so the OP won't receive a notification of this comment.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 voteshttp://na.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top
Oh look. Guess who is in Darius' top counters?
http://na.op.gg/champion/renekton/statistics/top
Guess which champ Renekton has a 40% winrate against?
But somehow both these champs counter Teemo right?
Lol stats vs actually being good
KlydeFrog1 votesAlso people forget about adaptive helm gee how Mr and more damage reduction on everything he does shocker right
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesAlso people forget about adaptive helm gee how Mr and more damage reduction on everything he does shocker right
Ikr and juggernauts tend to build bulky stuff anyway, I'm not saying every Darius gonna beat Teemo in lane but he shouldn't lose lane to Teemo with all the options he can go for
KlydeFrog2 votesOhh wait there is more adaptive helm counters zyra azir heimer lol
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesOhh wait there is more adaptive helm counters zyra azir heimer lol
Yup, orianna, Teemo, space aids, syndra, hiemer, Azir, zyra, Zoe (sorta), Morgana... The list goes on but everyone buys spirit visage ... Which isn't a terrible idea, because the odd mechanics of adaptive helm, but we're just trying to win against Teemo here
KlydeFrog2 votesIt's one of the best items in the game
GarthBrooksXD1 votesOnly a bronze mind would bring an oracle to top lane during lane phase. You would have no wards. Just like a bronze.
On the other hand, someone could pick one of about 30 champions that can lane well against him and even buy up to 3 control wards if they were that worried about shrooms.
Also if ur jungler had a brain Teemo would just play a 1v2 lane half the game and rage quit.
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesOnly a bronze mind would bring an oracle to top lane during lane phase. You would have no wards. Just like a bronze.
On the other hand, someone could pick one of about 30 champions that can lane well against him and even buy up to 3 control wards if they were that worried about shrooms.
Also if ur jungler had a brain Teemo would just play a 1v2 lane half the game and rage quit.
Never said to lane, buy that when the shrooms start to actually hurt, but I'm saying it because at around the 30 minute mark and no one has bought one is just kind of rediculius ~18-25 minutes in it starts to be useful, but still the people who are in late game and complain about "noob champ no skill just r everywhere" when you have a choice to deal with it is kinda alarming
GarthBrooksXD1 votes"buy oracle or dont bother going back to lane when he hits 6"
CaptainAntiHeroz1 votes"buy oracle or dont bother going back to lane when he hits 6"
If you don't plan on buying it then it's best to go somewhere else, at 6 a control wards simpler cuz with that 
you can punish him for trying to contest it and it should buy you the time to farm up and get yourself that Oracle by level 9, the main issue I had was so many people didn't seem to know that they could use it to clear his shrooms, so this is like a public service announcement
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CaptainAntiHeroz1 votesyou dont know how to play the game at all. dont give people advice. u are bronze 2 with 2-9 record. stay off of boards
O so now people want to act like buying an oracle lens is bad advice, plus I don't remember asking for an opinion, especially when I mained the champion in question and did will with him But by all means don't by a oracle ever, just makes laning easier because your jungler won't gank your lane because they know it's a shroom infested death sentence Accept the help offer a better alternative or say nothing because trying to be rude to someone who is (a higher level) just because they had a bad 11 games? Sure I still have no idea about how to deal with Illaoi but I know how to play Teemo