And 
has been allowed to have a 57%-58% winrate for months now.
Any plans on addressing these champs anytime soon? Or are we going to keep pretending they're fine? Better nerf Malz and Shen again though right?
Magical Zoe5 votesPick rate has nothing to do with a champ being overpowered or weak. Ezreal and Lucian both had around 30-50% pick rate and really never got touched because they were perfectly balanced.
dunder kill2 votesDid you read the title? Did I just list Lucian's pick rate? You wanna compare those two's winrates for us?
Lauchmelder1 votesTrue, pickrate has nothing to do with a champion being too strong or too weak.
If their winrate is far above the 50% mark they ARE too strong though, no matter how much some people try to ignore it.
Handy Sandy 4 votesBut nerfs aren't about winrates alone
SlampieceHawke4 votesI say we give them some nerfs, but also some buffs to compensate.
Working on my rito balance team resume...
Bronze II Yasuo 2 votesAhri isn't being addressed nor is Lucian, So what's your point?
Win rate is just a mere stat on what a champion can do, Ivern is already vulnerable to early game ganks due to the fact he doesn't even build damage I'm surprised no one even decides to counter invade him early. He's already got a brain dead clear though I'll agree maybe that could be changed so he has more risks in his clear. But overall Ivern isn't an issue, it the fact that he can clear the jungle extremely fast, stay healthy and repeat.
Derfel2 votesLemonnation pressed R in a game with 
we can't have that now can we.
OtterlyLost2 votesI really don't feel like Ivern needs a nerf. :/ he's got a high winrate but his pick rate is low; that's like saying Kog'maw needs a nerf because he had the highest win rate for ADC for a while(IE Before Lucian got super OP and popular). He didn't get one because his pickrate was low; it was literally just a pocket of players who were good at him playing him and bloating his winrate. I feel like its the same for Ivern.
I also don't feel like Ahri needs a nerf either. She has literally had nothing change to her specifically that makes her win rate high; its just high because of the result of the meta. Immobile mages are not really able to go mid with the mobile AD Assassins that have become super popular as of late so its understandable that people would settle on something that was more mobile if they needed AP for the team. And Ahri fits that bill.
Lucian definitely needs something. He has recently been buffed and changed and I think it was an over buff when they were already were changing BoRK. He is WAY too strong now with a MASSIVE play rate. He's always, consistently been a favorite ADC to play by a lot of people and when he's good, he's too good. :/ He's so oppressive and stifling.
SoundChaosDebug1 votesIvern is getting gutted with the new changes this season, it will separate the people who know how to use him from the freelo sheep.
ScissorsNstuff1 votesnothing new, I see no problem here.
They don't need nerfs right now, know that right now there are massive item changes in the works. ALL current balance is irrelevant until after
Sire Hippington1 votesNot saying any of those 3 is fine and doesn't need nerfs, but how comes that whenerver people go on a play+winrate whichhunt, 
isn't mentioned?
Janna has similar stats consistently over years and yet no one gives a fuck, but once a damage, kill focused champ reaches those stats, everyone goes on a rampage....