When your teemo top laner goes "gg no tank"

The opposite is true. They can't blame you for not fitting in the comp that they wanted. They isn't collective, as a group. "They" could be individual; The Yasuo mid, the Vayne ADC, the Brand Support, the Master Yi jgl, etc.

you are wrong

Support tanks still get tanky enough and can very easily front line by themselves if they do well or play smartly. As long as Teemo picked before both jungle and support, you can't fault him for a no tank comp. The same is true for both of the other roles when they pick squishy champions in their roles first. The only time you can't fault somebody for complaining about comp when they were in a position that could fix it, is when they are a late pick.

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I don't think its fair to blame the support.

http://prettylittleliars.com/files/2016/03/aria-says-its-happening-again-in-pll-619.gif

But on a more serious note, it's totally possible the support is the only tank you NEED while top and jg play carry champs that give a further advantage in teamfights as long as they have at least one player front-lining.

What about Gnar ? Isn't he both?

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That's pretty much because he's left purposely weak due to his toxic kit. Teemo has barely had any changes since the beta days of League - though can't really blame the squishy top laner if they're one of the first picks. Both junger and support roles can also play tanky champs as well.

To be honest, I've played Teemo for years and personally love his hit and run gameplay; however, would love to see a rework for him to give a better teamfighting potential for the little guy. He's a marksmen that is pretty much forced to go top lane due to his low range and ap scalings which make him a poor choice as an adc. Regardless, won't deny that there are many troll players who pick Teemo; however, don't judge us all as the same folks.

Good point. I wanted to address the whole first pick top laner thing, and this isn't to you specifically but I just started reading some of the replies here.

First pick doesn't give you an excuse to ignore team composition. You don't even need an excuse to do that because it isn't against the rules and sometimes composition doesn't even matter. In close games it does.

If you're going top lane, always use pick intent. If you're below the support or jungler in the pick order, how will they know what to pick? I'm a support main, and I'm more than willing to attempt to fill out what we're missing, but you also need to remember two important things about the support role.

We are normally 3-4 levels behind everyone else, no matter how well we do, and our income is by far the smallest and with must-buy support items. We are inferior to laning tanks in terms of sustain, but we do bring the lock down. If jungle and top lane are both picking something like Rengar top and Teemo top, you still need to be extra cautious when team fighting comes around, especially if one or more of you lost lane.

Not only that, but I'm supposed to get my ADC through their laning phase. Bot lane is so deadly early game now, so I'm not going to be picking Leona (the tank I play) into something like Miss Fortune and Zilean if I can help it. If we die, the enemy ADC snowballs quickly.

I also see a lot of people making excuses for playing squishy picks top. Own it. There are many proper tanks that do so well in this meta like Illaoi and Nasus, and then there are fighters that are still great picks like Irelia, Renekton, and Darius. If you're going to play Yasuo, Kennen, and Teemo top then just own it. You aren't doing anything wrong, but don't complain about no tanks.

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Don't downvote, he at least keeps it out of ranked.

I'm used to down votes when I talk in gameplay anyways.

I gave up on ranked a long time ago and realized I don't care about being the best but having fun.

Sense then I don't rage as much when I do bad or when people take my kills even when I'm adc. It doesn't matter anymore really.

You wanna try hard? Go to ranked.

If I catch people raging in normals I make them more salty and push their buttons.. And if they get salty enough.. I report them.

I'm a horrible person for how many times I get the report feedback.

I may not be the best but I'm a dann fun person to play with.

Do weird shot like AP Caitlyn top for all I care.. My friend actually tried.. He succeeded for a short while but then it went downhill. Lol

Again NOT IN RANKED. Lol

"the best possible pick for our comp"

You don't have to win lane as long as you don't feed and snowball the other person (unless they're Susan - then Braum is just boned). With a comp like that, Braum is a weak pick in lane but his wall and peel make him ideal once mid game rolls around.

Just enough range to make life hell for melees, not enough range to be of any use in teamfights. Definition of a selfish pick.

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Except teemo provides 0 poke due to his extremely short range.

shrooms are global poke my friend hahaa

both support and jungle have viable choices to tank, why top always gets called out for wanting to play someone that does hurty things is beyond me. just like how only the adc is blamed for low damage while mid is oom from minions at a mighty 2/9/1...