Riot nerfed Cass again.

Canastus·Mar 16, 2015·5 votes·741 views

http://i.imgur.com/nzv0Fyu.jpg You already raised the manacosts on her E to that of an ultimate, but that wasn't enough apparently. You also had to cut down her already low ratios to something abysmal. When will this gutting stop?

From a mathematical standpoint I should recieve 401,5 additional magic damage on my E due to its intended 0.55 ratio, instead I'm stuck with the measly amount of 295. That's TONS of damage missing. And the deficit only grows once you get a deathcap. You NEED to reduce her manacosts or give her damage back, period.

13 Comments

LoLKiruMar 16, 20154 votes

Definitely going to assume thats unintended. Considering as she had no nerfs in the notes, or on the PBE.

Edit: Before anyone says it, no, im not denying that Cass is in a strong spot right now (really, she needs to just be looked at more; stop shoving SO MUCH power onto her E)

I'm just saying this "nerf" is probably unintended. The amount of ratio you would have to take off to get that damage would be pretty high (Twin Fangs in this situation is at approximately a 40% ratio, thats a 15% difference from its intended 55% ratio)

exiledFromBadmenMar 16, 20153 votes

OMG, dude you should've posted this at Report A Bug. It's definitely a bug needs to be fixed.

King OdinMar 16, 20153 votes

Twin Fang RANGE: 700 COST: 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 MANA COOLDOWN: 5 MAGIC DAMAGE: 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 / 155 (+ 55% AP) If Twin Fang kills the target, refunds its mana cost plus 3% of her maximum mana.

Passive: 100 STACKS: 5% increased ability power, and Twin Fang.png Twin Fang now heals for 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 14 / 16 (+ 10% AP). 250 STACKS: 10% increased ability power and 25% bonus cooldown reduction. 500 STACKS: 30% increased ability power.

What are you talking about? She is a top tier lane bully with a spammable spell, sustain, and she gains % AP from her passive. She is currently in a very good spot if not too good of a spot comapred to Lux and Ziggs. She should not have mana problems at all with ROA/Tear of the goddess. Please explain what you are saying.

Edit: I see what you mean about the AP Scaling. Is this on the PBE or is this a tool tip bug?

CanastusMar 16, 20152 votes

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Twin Fang RANGE: 700 COST: 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 MANA COOLDOWN: 5 MAGIC DAMAGE: 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 / 155 (+ 55% AP) If Twin Fang kills the target, refunds its mana cost plus 3% of her maximum mana.

Passive: 100 STACKS: 5% increased ability power, and Twin Fang.png Twin Fang now heals for 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 14 / 16 (+ 10% AP). 250 STACKS: 10% increased ability power and 25% bonus cooldown reduction. 500 STACKS: 30% increased ability power.

What are you talking about? She is a top tier lane bully with a spammable spell, sustain, and she gains % AP from her passive. She is currently in a very good spot if not too good of a spot comapred to Lux and Ziggs. She should not have mana problems at all with ROA/Tear of the goddess. Please explain what you are saying.

You apparently haven't read my entire post. There is a massive issue with the ratio of her E and the actual amount you recieve ingame.

I had 730 AP in that game and yet only recieved 295 additional magic damage instead of 401,5 (730 x 0.55). Now imagine I would have finished that dcap, the deficit would have been insane. This is a massive nerf to her overall performance since her main ability was absolutely gutted if this error remains.

King OdinMar 16, 20152 votes

Yeah I didn't know the picture actually had any information, I read what you had said but was perplexed as to where you got the information from until I saw the picture. Thought you were ranting about non existent nerfs. Also this is a bug so you should post it as such.

CanastusMar 16, 20151 votes

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Yeah I didn't know the picture actually had any information, I read what you had said but was perplexed as to where you got the information from until I saw the picture. Thought you were ranting about non existent nerfs. Also this is a bug so you should post it as such.

This is a colossal fuckup if anything else. Her manacosts were already insanely high but gutting her ratios has made matters only worse. Seriously, 90 mana on a 0.4 ratio single target ability?

Anyway, I've made sure to post a thread on the bug forums. I'm having my doubts about them replying to my concerns though, there's hardly any red activity going on over there.

King OdinMar 16, 20151 votes

You need to go and deal dmg to a target and see how much dmg it deals, only way to prove anything. Tool tips have been wrong many times before ^_^

MathbalnaseMar 16, 20151 votes

Riot rarely replies to bug reports, but routinely acts to resolve the bugs themselves. It's hard to say whether or not these resolutions are prompted by the reports or not, though.

KingsgraveMar 16, 20152 votes

Oh look a Cass circlejerker that should have just posted this in bug reports but used it for their own agenda to hate on RIot

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PassionlipMar 16, 20151 votes

Oh god thanks.

PhifeMar 16, 20151 votes

You're sick, go to bed get some rest. hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow.

CanastusMar 16, 20153 votes

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You're sick, go to bed get some rest. hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow.

You're deliberately ignoring the truth. This is definite evidence of her E ratio being gutted behind our backs. I demand an explanation for this atrocity.

PhifeMar 16, 20151 votes

Cass, is broken right now. She needs nerfs to her E.

IF you do not think she is strong, you might be sick.