Skill order on duo lane Mordekaiser?

Lao Fu the Tiger·Aug 20, 2015·1 votes·1,266 views

Just curious, what do you max/build on duo lane Morde now?

I have no idea.

10 Comments

ErgonoAug 20, 20151 votes

W first. Depending on your support you will focus on either W or Q to max first. Specifically if they can Pull Max Q. If they can lock down like Thresh or Leona max W since you want to cast that on them as you will have to walk in range to use Q it becomes less effective. One point in E. Its just Not cost effective.

I would say overall W>Q>E given the W passive you will hit level and can afford to lose the poke from E earlier. Or W>E>Q but i believe the sustain from W helps you forego E til level 3. You only need one big play with W and Q to get a kill or turn the tide. Poking the enemy down in my eyes becomes less valuable.

You would build items that support W like rylai first. You can full AP nuts if you feel skilled enough on Morde: item 3152 item 3116 item 3020 item 3089 item 3151 item 3157 .

Given Morde's high burst with Q and W damage & Heal Void staff might be less effective because of high damage that is unmitigated by item 3152 healing.

If you want more balance you would go item 3078 item 3116 and build from there what you want / need.

Important note: Relic shield is a great starting item. Might be worth upgrading to Targon but do not upgrade to face of the mountain. You will be selling that item during the game it should not be a late game item at all!!!.

Lao Fu the TigerAug 20, 20151 votes

Just from curiosity, is the Relic Shield start for the lane sustain and HP boost?

ErgonoAug 20, 20151 votes

Its for the $$$$$$. HP boost and sustain are nice but you will eventually sell it. Maybe turn it into targons MAYBE. But do not turn it into face of the mountain. Sell it and build actual damage or tank etc mid-late game.

Double relic shield you basically increase your chances of last hitting every minion in the wave with your support and you both share the spoils.

Lao Fu the TigerAug 21, 20151 votes

Awesome. Thanks man! :D

EDIT: I guess I still feel like when building AP I don't stick at all, even with Rylai's. Is some attack speed a good idea for Q?

ErgonoAug 21, 20151 votes

item 3078 anything else doesn't really help because they lowered his AS overall. item 3116 item 3053 is really all you need. of course this isn't for Hyrbrid but it gives you a since of how you can mix or match.

Lao Fu the TigerAug 21, 20151 votes

I guess the question it boils down to is, SHOULD I start item 3078 or a Spell Vamp item?

ErgonoAug 21, 20151 votes

You don't really need Spell vamp anymore. Honestly HP regen seals is probably a better option. This issue is that Riot refuses to re-work item 3124 or at the very least give a spell vamp item that has HP. But, the sustain on spell vamp might be worth the HP lost with the right supporting items.

The issue with spell vamp isn't necessarily its item, but how you must itemize to maximize its efficiency because MR reduces spell vamp rates. Since Morde goes big times dmg with Q and CDR is a good thing on him I would go item 3152 . Since its passive foregoes MR and heals you based on your damage regardless of resist.

Either way you still have to itemize to maximize that healing and it will take away from your tanky nature. That is the current issue riot needs to resolve with spell vamp its too binary, especially on Morde.

SaltyToplaneGoatAug 20, 20151 votes

Dependes if you want to go squishy ass AP, or AD/HP Juggernaut. With the first, look at Ergono's post, with the second... Well, you get W first and the the other two spells, only to max R>E>Q>W . Your E is nice poke at some point, also needed for waveclear and scales of ad. As for a build I have gotten item 3097 (sell that one later. But double targons rules!) item 3111 + Titanic Hydra + item 3071 + situational items of your choice.

ErgonoAug 20, 20151 votes

If your bot lane W is your wave clear. E is still skill #3 to max. Its just not cost effective in a duo lane.

item 3071 is a trap item. You really only benefit from the CDR everything else washes out because you are still magic damage. Better to just go item 3078 .