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I'll be frank, it's time to put Cait in the garbage where she belongs

Incognonymous·Aug 10, 2016·2 votes·764 views

First off, I've never bought the myth that she doesn't scale well. A 5-6 item ADC not scaling well? Relative to....? All the other ADCs, who she outranges? Get out of here. She's outrageously strong, and more than that, the archetype of poor design decision regarding ADCs:

-Reposition? Check. -Self-peel? Check. -Hard CC? Check. -Soft CC? Check.

ADCs like this are trouble. Not necessarily inherently BECAUSE of these qualities, but because these qualities often don't come at a cost. Cait is the prime example. Cait mains may hand wave and mumble "mah midgame", but let's be real here. It's time to bury this fucking %%%% under a wave of nerfs so hard that no one will ever want to play her again.

Nerf her trap duration. Nerf headshot damage. Nerf ult range. Nerf Q damage to minions so she can't just one shot an entire fucking wave. Keep her auto range, that's fine. Nerf the distance her net shoots her and nerf the slow on it.

16 Comments

dangopeeAug 10, 20162 votes

The traps are cancer. She hard counters Zilean item 3157 item 3026 since her traps are always available for basically no cost. She extends any CC because her traps are just free.

InfernoFøxAug 10, 20161 votes

her traps have a long CD. At rank 5, it takes 50 seconds for all trqps to come up. Thats a long time really. And yes she can place traps when people go down. So what? Dont go down near her or dont get that item. Each trap costs 20 mana. So all 5 down at rank 5 will cost 100 mana. I dont see how that is free.

IncognonymousAug 10, 20161 votes

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her traps have a long CD. At rank 5, it takes 50 seconds for all trqps to come up. Thats a long time really. And yes she can place traps when people go down. So what? Dont go down near her or dont get that item. Each trap costs 20 mana. So all 5 down at rank 5 will cost 100 mana. I dont see how that is free.

Are you kidding me? She can wall off an entire lane, or entrance way, even box you in under turret. That's insane, almost unprecedented area denial, for only 100 mana. And no, that really isn't that long "for all 5."

InfernoFøxAug 10, 20161 votes

Its called GO TO ANOTHER LANE

IncognonymousAug 10, 20161 votes

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Its called GO TO ANOTHER LANE

....I... what?

Leave botlane because Cait trapped it? Is this what you're saying? I thought "just dodge the spears" was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. Just been topped.

dangopeeAug 10, 20161 votes

Yeah because CDR doesn't exist.

Irelia BotAug 10, 20162 votes

Hi frank

Can I be Bob?

InfernoFøxAug 10, 20161 votes

She is immobile. Very immobile. But a good Caitlyn can use her traps and 90 Caliber net to kite. She is all about kiting and just attacking the champion. If she get focused, she explodes. Assassins are her worse nightmare. Honestly if she has a row of traps, rotate somewhere else. It takes a long time for them to all come back up. And once she uses her E to escape she doesnt really have any other means of escaped besides well placed traps. Shes fine where she is because she has a very weak early game. She may outrange every adc. But most of them have some form of good CC or gap closer to get near her. Once people are in her little bubble, its hard for her to survive.

IncognonymousAug 10, 20161 votes

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She is immobile. Very immobile. But a good Caitlyn can use her traps and 90 Caliber net to kite. She is all about kiting and just attacking the champion. If she get focused, she explodes. Assassins are her worse nightmare. Honestly if she has a row of traps, rotate somewhere else. It takes a long time for them to all come back up. And once she uses her E to escape she doesnt really have any other means of escaped besides well placed traps. Shes fine where she is because she has a very weak early game. She may outrange every adc. But most of them have some form of good CC or gap closer to get near her. Once people are in her little bubble, its hard for her to survive.

Her "little bubble" happens to be the largest area of influence generated by a single ADC, sans Jhin. While my post was about poor ADC design, I guess I failed to mention GOOD ADC design, those that need a team to coordinate with. Those without self peel or hard CC. In an ideal meta, the threats you described, would be mitigated.

Riot instead chose to give every tool available to ADCs for solo play.

InfernoFøxAug 10, 20161 votes

When other ADC's get in range for autos, it is hard for her to win because she lacks mobility and cant dodge many skill shots as easy as lucian or Ezreal. Youre acting like she has a full build at level 1. Just work around her traps and dont go head on chase cause she will proc E.

IncognonymousAug 10, 20161 votes

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When other ADC's get in range for autos, it is hard for her to win because she lacks mobility and cant dodge many skill shots as easy as lucian or Ezreal. Youre acting like she has a full build at level 1. Just work around her traps and dont go head on chase cause she will proc E.

She doesn't lack mobility though. She has a dash.

InfernoFøxAug 10, 20161 votes

Thats not a dash. That is a defensive tool. It isnt used to dash really. Even so the CD is stupid long

IncognonymousAug 10, 20161 votes

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Thats not a dash. That is a defensive tool. It isnt used to dash really. Even so the CD is stupid long

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn

"ACTIVE: Caitlyn fires a net and dashes in the opposite direction, dealing magic damage to the first enemy hit and Slow icon slowing them by 50% for 1 second."

I'm sorry, you were saying?

The Bearded BardAug 10, 20161 votes

Lacks mobility compared to who? She has her E. It can go over walls and comes with a neat little slow that also extends her range and increases her damage if she hits a champion.

The Bearded BardAug 10, 20161 votes

Activating a trap now grants a debuff that makes you immune to her traps for three seconds, starts after the snare wears off and does not stack. Now she's punished for clumping a shit ton of traps together because a tank can just run through them all.

Headshot damage now correlates with distance traveled, giving max range headshots a slight damage increase, breaking even at any range over her usual max, lowering bonus damage for all headshots that range from point blank to whatever her normal range is. There, now net is used as an escape instead of a pointblank damage increase tool.

BeeCuzAug 10, 20161 votes

Go right ahead and be Frank. I'll be Ted.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

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