Just a reminder: You underestimate DH Zyra

Illabethe··2 votes·1,055 views

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And no. This is Top Zyra vs Jax. This isn't a duo lane Zyra. This is Zyra who had to leave top, LET Jax get a turret, to save bot/mid from an endless stalemate which was favoring the other team.

(They created a Jinx even I was scared of).

item 2065 item 3905 item 3907 item 3135 item 3020 item 3285 ftw.......

P.S. Jax never killed me this entire game. That was all the rest of my team lol.

(Oh. And I'm up to 14 LP a win 21 a loss. With a 52%. Fun fun)

10 Comments

Moonscourge2 votes

DH sounds awful because your CC and slows will guarantee Comet hits, which deal more than double the damage of DH on a WAY shorter cooldown. Unless you get an absurd amount of stacks it will strictly be a worse option. Sure, when you get a last hit on somebody getting a second one will be faster, but I would never count on that.

Illabethe1 votes

Zyra can deal 60% of a target's HP in one combo. I usually get 24-50 stacks, depending on how early I stack Relentless Hunter. This game I had 38 Stacks.

Comet does not do NEAR the damage DH does, because DH can repeat Electrocute like damage every 1.5 seconds, if you use it right, and does more per hit damage. Try to avoid 340 added on damage on top of a burst kit.

Comet also requires you to either summon really weak plants on Zyra, or to get a Rylai's...... which don't allow this build.

P.S. Are you even looking at the damage progressions on this game? I outdamaged a Jinx who could 3 shot by 15k. As. A Top. With no Teleport.

pureMJ1 votes

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Zyra can deal 60% of a target's HP in one combo. I usually get 24-50 stacks, depending on how early I stack Relentless Hunter. This game I had 38 Stacks.

Comet does not do NEAR the damage DH does, because DH can repeat Electrocute like damage every 1.5 seconds, if you use it right, and does more per hit damage. Try to avoid 340 added on damage on top of a burst kit.

Comet also requires you to either summon really weak plants on Zyra, or to get a Rylai's...... which don't allow this build.

P.S. Are you even looking at the damage progressions on this game? I outdamaged a Jinx who could 3 shot by 15k. As. A Top. With no Teleport.

You are so fed, and with 38 stacks, you deal 60% of target HP in one combo. Isn't that a joke? Any other burst mage will do 160% in one combo.

Illabethe1 votes

Dunno what you're trying to get across?

Most burst mages outstrip Zyra in damage right now by about 24-30%. But, hers with DH can delete people after it gets rolling.

You do realize I was fed because I put the work in? I was top laning vs a Jax.

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

no one underestimates Zyra's damage. we all know its broken for a champ who use to be a mid lane mage forced into the support role kinda like brand.

Illabethe1 votes

You failed to read. This is Top lane. Not Support.

Also, she's been nerfed into the reasonable ground recently. 24-12% off her plant damage, and Jax is one of her immediate counters.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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You failed to read. This is Top lane. Not Support.

Also, she's been nerfed into the reasonable ground recently. 24-12% off her plant damage, and Jax is one of her immediate counters.

you fail realize she does damage that is what she does, she does aoe/dot damage and the items she gets amplifies her damage by a ton . it dont matter top,jungle,mid support

zyra has always had really high base damages but scaling isnt ideal

Illabethe1 votes

Her skill base damage and scaling is actually one of the mid-range. What makes her successful is the fact her plants extend her range. If you can kill her plants in .5 seconds, she generally is way too immobile and dies a lot when playing a Liandry's build. You don't need her DoT to be "amplified" when you run DH/Mobility.

Her base damage is actually laughable compared to other mages.

Filthy Rank1 votes

Now (patch 9.6) zyra plant can't proc dark harvest anymore, sorry.

Illabethe1 votes

Actually, that's NOT what the patch notes say. What they do say about plants/pets:

Now ALL pets will apply on hit spell effects the same. In other words, Yorick's pets can now proc DH. Zyra's already could.

They increased the utility of some pets. Zyra's are the same.

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