1.) Which team has the most connected players. 2.) Which team has the better high elo smurf. 3.) Which team has less players griefing, feeding, inting, or afk in the fountain spamming their dance emote or flaming chat.
Step right up and roll the dice, folks!
Razelth8 votesBetter blame some other factor instead of your own ability. People have climbed out of Silver, and will continue to climb out of it if they're good enough.
611FVNKBlv3 votesgood joke. try to climb as soloq support (smth like soraka janna etc not Pyke)
Razelth3 votesWhy would I try to climb on a role I don't want to play, and champs that I don't enjoy? I climbed out of silver. My friend climbed out of silver. How is it a joke?
Lazy Grandpa1 votesWhy would I try to climb on a role I don't want to play, and champs that I don't enjoy? I climbed out of silver. My friend climbed out of silver. How is it a joke?
because playing support is an enabler? meaning you rely on your team to do what you help them to do. your teammates failures are not an indication of your skill. support in low elo is the hardest to climb with on the basis that you play an enchanter/healer.
as an enchanter the most important thing for you is your team mates, no matter what you do, or how skilled you are, you ultimately rely on your team mates.
Hi im 121 votes[deleted]
Emelie Cauchemar1 votesThere was a soraka player who went unranked to diamond playing "passive soraka" aka. She only leveled W and R and maintained 0 champion damage dealt or minion damage dealt. And made it to diamond. Sooooo I feel you're just making excuses lol.
Hi im 121 votes? sounds like you were replying to the wrong person
Razelth1 votesSo you're complaining you can't climb because your team can't carry you enough? You shouldn't climb if you don't carry yourself. Simple as that.
Lazy Grandpa1 votesSo you're complaining you can't climb because your team can't carry you enough? You shouldn't climb if you don't carry yourself. Simple as that.
no, i'm not a support main. i just stated design as it is. but think what you want.
KVbqbFsC8e6 votesThats true in Iron, Bronze, Gold, Platinum, and Diamond too... whats your point?
Barkley2 votesOh I guess that makes it ok, u rite.
Mb, its not a problem at all. Sorry.
KVbqbFsC8e3 votesI didn't say its not a problem, but by specifically adding "in a silver game", it seems you are just trying to find excuses as to why you are Silver.
Barkley1 votesNo, that’s your condescending view of it being projected. What it ACTUALLY means is that im speaking from my own experience and not making assumptions about things I don’t know......
N o t m a k i n g a s s u m p t i o n s a b o u t t h i n g s i d o n t k n o w
Eedat1 votesOr maybe you're actually a silver level player
Barkley1 votesYeah I’d be inclined to agree, except that every time I get out of silver my LP skyrockets and almost hit plat in like... 10% of the time it took me to get out of silver.
Takes all season to get out of silver, and then about a week to get into plat promos or high gold.
But that doesn’t matter, because even if I’m at 90LP in gold 1, I’m just gonna get put back down in bronze at placements for next season and have to do it all over. (Happened a few seasons ago.)
And it’s just not worth it to me anymore. I just don’t see the point in stressing myself out dealing with the absolute cancer cesspool that is silver, just to have the game reset me every season.
So nowadays I just play for fun. Fuck it.
Eedat2 votesDid you actually expect people to believe that?
Barkley1 votesWell... yes....
Generally that's what people do with the truth?
o.O
Eedat1 votesNo but for real though? Why don't you post on that account real quick? Have a feeling you can't because it doesn't exist
Razelth1 votesYour account ended in low Gold season 7. I don't see any high Gold seasons. Unless you're saying that you demoted all the way down to Gold 5 after reaching high Gold. It just means that the game made a mistake by putting you in high Gold, then decided to lower your rank again. You consistently end in Silver every season, with the exception of season 7. If you can't stay in Gold, you don't deserve it.
Barkley1 votesAh yes, another OP.GG'er.
Those sites don't track preseasons or postseasons, friend. But I appreciate your detective work!
Funny you'd spend so much time trying to prove me wrong -- does it bother you that maybe someone might actually have a valid complaint against the ranked system?
I've hit gold 2 times, once in post-season (once during an actual season), and I've been 2 wins into my plat promos 1 time in a post season (actually, the season I ended gold. Season 7?)
Every time I get out of silver, I climb RAPIDLY. But it doesn't matter, because I get plopped right back down in bronze or silver at the beginning of every season and have to do it all over again. That's the truth, and here's the funny thing about truths -- They're true whether you believe them or not!
But you keep doing god's work, bud.
Razelth1 votesI didn't spend much time. I just went on op.gg and searched your name up.
From what I know, Riot doesn't care about preseason and postseason ranking. The ranking you end up at during the actual season is all that matters. Riot thinks you peak at Gold 5, bud.
You get plopped right back down in Bronze or Silver because the game thinks that's where you deserve to be at. You've ended at Silver four out of the five seasons you've been playing. Your current skill level matches you with what the system believes to be Silver. That's the truth, and here's the funny thing about truths -- They're true whether you believe them or not!
Barkley1 votesI'm not arguing that. At all. 100% agree.
Riot's system thinks I belong in silver. Always. Even if I surpass it and climb rapidly once I get out of it. But it takes all goddamn season long to climb out of silver because of how goddamn horrible it is.
You have people in this very thread that are platinum and diamond that are AGREEING silver is absolutely horrible, and probably the hardest to climb through, scroll up.
I am not a platinum or diamond player. Never claim to be. I got close to plat ONCE in 10 years, but have never been. I am PROBABLY not platinum.
But I don't think its unfair to say that there's a possibility I should PROBABLY be gold. Low gold at a minimum.
If I didn't have to hack my way through the briar patch of toxicity, connectivity issues, hard-feeding, griefing, and trolling that is silver -- I might even be able to climb past gold.
But I don't even get the fucking opportunity, because I've gotta go through silver every season -- which takes all season long.
When I do make it past silver, the few times I have -- I climb. Easily. Its quite enjoyable and relaxing, actually. My team mates cooperate, people follow calls, people avoid roaming ganks, people ping their MIAs, people assist with jungle pressure. Its wonderful.
If the system didn't reset me back to silver every season, I have no doubt I'd hang around in gold. I feel comfortable there. Feel like I'm with people of my own skill level. I'm not carrying any games, and I'm not hindering any games. I'm just... part of the team. (That's a weird word for silver players..... team.)
I don't play hard carry champs. I play team oriented champs. I have a team oriented style of play. You don't get teams in Silver. You get 1 of 2 things: 1.) Absolute dog shit players who don't know an objective from their asshole 2.) Hard-carry 1v9 style players who solo carry your game and get you free LP that won't be in silver long.
Because that's how you get out of silver. You 1v9 with a champ like Yasuo, master yi, tryndamere, vayne, kaisa, etc. Pub stompers. Noob wreckers.
I don't play those champs, and I don't play that style. I can't. I'm not a mechanically gifted player. I couldn't 1v1 my way out of a paper bag.
But I can land 5-man amumu ults, 4-man zac knockups, high-priority Sejuani ultimates all day long. I can peel the fuck out of a carry. I can get every drake, every game. I can get every baron, every game. I can out-smite just about anyone in any situation. I put more vision down in one game than most silver supports do in a week. I get 2-3 turrets out of 40-50% of my rift heralds. I can play the fucking map. I can rotate so well a silver player's head would spin.
But none of that shit matters when you've got people on your team going 0-10 in lane, disconnecting, refusing to help, blah blah blah blah blah.
That all stabilizes (kinda) when you hit gold. People actually know what they're doing, and my playstyle shines. I become helpful. My strategy and my decisions begin to matter. People can actually do things with the pressure/information I provide, and I climb. Rapidly.
BUT OH WAIT!!!
The season's over.
Back to silver I go.
And it'd be one thing if it was like..... Silver 1 or whatever.
But nope. Silver 4. Maybe even Bronze 1, if I'm real lucky.
Razelth1 votesMy friend is sitting at D3 this season after peaking Silver 5 in Season 6, and he plays supports like Morgana, Lux, Lulu and Nami.. Those champs rely on a team to win and he got to D3. We play norms often, and played a few games of ranked together this season. He's a heavily team-oriented player who can't carry a game by himself and he still got out of Silver by playing solo.
If I didn't have to hack my way through the briar patch of toxicity, connectivity issues, hard-feeding, griefing, and trolling that is silver -- I might even be able to climb past gold.
See, here's the thing. There's 4 other people on your team. There is 5 on the enemy team. Realistically, the enemy team should have a higher chance of having toxic players, connectivity issues, hard-feeding, griefing and trolling. That issue won't deter your climbing. Sure, it might be unfun to win a game where someone trolls, but you can't say that this is a reason for why you can't climb past gold.
You have people in this very thread that are platinum and diamond that are AGREEING silver is absolutely horrible, and probably the hardest to climb through, scroll up.
I'm Diamond. My friend is Diamond. We don't think it was hard to get out of silver.
Riot's system thinks I belong in silver. Always. Even if I surpass it and climb rapidly once I get out of it. But it takes all goddamn season long to climb out of silver because of how goddamn horrible it is.
It takes all season long because you're not good enough to climb out of it yet.
Barkley1 votesYes. You two are DIAMOND. Of course silver is easy for you. I should hope so, anyway?
I'm not claiming to be diamond. I'm claiming to be ONE division higher than silver. I'm claiming I belong in low-mid gold.
And I am clearly good enough to get out of it, because I have. Twice. And during one of those times, I almost made plat. I don't think I belong in plat, I probably would have gotten stomped back down to gold fairly quickly.
All I'm saying is I'm not silver, and silver is very, very hard to climb out of even for people who ARE platinum.
All I'm saying is that if Riot's stupid system didn't reset my rank every damn season, I'd probably have been gold for 3-4 seasons now. I'd be happy with that. I would think that is a fair representation of my skill.
I have diamond friends. I can't hold a fucking candle to them, not even on my best day. I don't even play with them because I just get roflstomped and drag them down.
I have platinum friends. They're better than me, but I can at least keep up. I get invited to their games frequently. They don't have any problem with playing with me.
I have silver friends. I am exponentially better than all of them. When I play with them I regularly perform the best on my team by a LONG shot. But we probably only win 45-55% of our games because of how many games are decided by a feeder, an inter, a troll, an afk, or what have you. (sometimes this inter, feeder, troll, afk is one of my friends)
Point is, I'm better than silver players, and worse than plat players. That tells me I'm somewhere in between.
But the climb through silver is slow and stressful because of how toxic it is.
Jesi Oni5 votesNormals as well... But you can add three more 🤣
"Smurf" tryhard that leaves a game after being ganked.
Its only normal troll
Mid lock & mid wannabe but failed (mid trolls)
As for third... I am always amazed how noobs want to play mid where they are ganked from two sides compared to top/bot and always cry about everything when 💩 happens. Top is a easy isolated solo-lane for 1v1 between scrubs~ not mid 🤣
Also I dont remember the time when mid player carried a game for me 🤔
Dynikus3 votes[{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OB5GgARq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-05T20:03:30.841+0000)
Normals as well... But you can add three more 🤣
"Smurf" tryhard that leaves a game after being ganked.
Its only normal troll
Mid lock & mid wannabe but failed (mid trolls)
As for third... I am always amazed how noobs want to play mid where they are ganked from two sides compared to top/mid and always cry about everything when 💩 happens. Top is a easy isolated solo-lane for 1v1 between scrubs~ not mid 🤣
mid is actually a lot easier to escape ganks than top is. Top you have 1 exit path. Mid you have 3, as well as multiple dashable walls, and easier to flash walls. It's (part) of the reason immobile mages have traditionally gone mid.
TheUrbanKitsune5 votes"The three things that determine victory in a silver game League of Legends."
FTFY
LolTempo3 votesTrue
Linda de Mol3 votesThis is the truth and everyone who disagrees is a liar.
Barkley3 votesMy favorite part about this thread is all the high elo people coming in like “I stomp my way through silver all day everyday” when I specifically pointed out that this EXACT behavior is part of the reason silver is so goddamn toxic. EASILY 30% of my games are lost because someone disconnects, griefs, or ints. And I don’t mean they played bad “int” I mean legit running it down mid. And I say 30% generously. It’s probably more like 35-40% but let’s just play along and say it’s lower.
Then you throw goddamn toxic cancer dia+ Smurfs into the mix and it just gets worse.
Way to be part of the problem, boys!
OF COURSE it’s easy for you, you’re fucking diamond+. It should be easy for you. Something would be wrong if it wasn’t.
But for those of us that should probably be gold or even plat maybe, we get hardstuck in silver because of your bullshit. (Plus other bullshit, Afks, trolls, feeders, temper tantrums, etc)
I’d never claim to be diamond+. I just don’t have the reflexes for it, nor do I care enough, nor am I a mechanically gifted player.
But I’m definitely better than silver. Gold maybe? MAYBE plat, probably not?
But I get fucked because you guys need to come stroke your already overinflated egos by stomping kids 3-4 ranks lower than you.
Congrats on that. Big accomplishment.
AlterMordred2 votesWhenever I talk to my silver 2 friend he always says he sees atleast 1 smurf every 5 games playing something like 
that goes 27/2
Feelsbad tbh
Ztoka2 votesAren't those 3 things that will determine victory through plat? Limiting to silver seems a bit low..
Magnesium142 votesI ganked a top lane thrice times in 5 mins, he went afk cause i didn't gank enough.
Eedat2 votesThats odd because I climb back to gold every year on this account within like 30-40 games
Lazy Grandpa1 votesThats odd because I climb back to gold every year on this account within like 30-40 games
you may get put in silver as a rank after placements, but more than likely you are actually playing in gold mmr games to get back to gold. so it's not really the same, but still sort of the same
Hi im 121 voteshttps://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=MissMuphinn
played through bronze n silver on a hardstuck account recently, bout 100% wr at hitting gold, really ain't that hard.
Lazy Grandpa1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OB5GgARq,comment-id=001100000000,timestamp=2019-08-06T15:59:03.835+0000)
https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=MissMuphinn
played through bronze n silver on a hardstuck account recently, bout 100% wr at hitting gold, really ain't that hard.
lvl 33, yeah but thats smurfing through bronze and then silver. you are literally number 2 on the list in those matches. makes sense that it's not that hard
twitch jungle main, high impact role with cheese strategy and secondary seems to be top lane playing riven a broken champion. makes even more sense if you ask me :P very cheesy. actually a bit disgusting you played twitch jungle through bronze and silver feel rather bad for those people, basically abused them.
obviously not super hard to climb using such methods.
Hi im 121 votesI had never played twitch nor riven before that account, I'm not good at either and this proves that you just have to have decent pathing to get to plat as a jungler.
actually a bit disgusting you played twitch jungle through bronze and silver feel rather bad for those people
people need to learn how to not play lazy somehow so take it as a learning experience.
Barkley1 votesTry it on Sejuani, amumu, or tank jarvan.
“Try new champs”
Nah... I love these champs, both for their kits and their lore, and I have fun playing them. I’ve played every champ. Don’t like most of them.
Hi im 121 votesI can tell you that its very as as tank sejuani and AP amumu, tank j4 is just like playing AP sivir and complaining you can't climb.
Dukues2 votesHonestly people can say this is untrue, but it's really not. Silver is seriously a cesspool to have to play through these days. And the damage creep plus increased snowball mechanics the last two seasons have made it a lot worse.
I honestly can't tell a season 9 plat player from a season 9 silver player in most my games. People die so damn fast half the time I really never have any idea what rank anyone is anymore. I used to be able to guess players ranks within like a fucking division of where they were by end of the season, now I generally have literally no clue game to game. Honestly everyone just seems silver to me these days (myself included) I really just never know what anyone's rank is anymore. Playing in silver is the hardest thing I had to do this season so far (besides maybe plat promos which hopefully coming up sometime this week crossing fingers".
Silver just really fucking sucks to play through now more than ever and I don't miss it at all. I used to rank multiple accounts up per season but I have no desire to play on alts anymore because silver so unfun to play in lol.
EY3 Tyr4nT1 votesHonestly people can say this is untrue, but it's really not. Silver is seriously a cesspool to have to play through these days. And the damage creep plus increased snowball mechanics the last two seasons have made it a lot worse.
I honestly can't tell a season 9 plat player from a season 9 silver player in most my games. People die so damn fast half the time I really never have any idea what rank anyone is anymore. I used to be able to guess players ranks within like a fucking division of where they were by end of the season, now I generally have literally no clue game to game. Honestly everyone just seems silver to me these days (myself included) I really just never know what anyone's rank is anymore. Playing in silver is the hardest thing I had to do this season so far (besides maybe plat promos which hopefully coming up sometime this week crossing fingers".
Silver just really fucking sucks to play through now more than ever and I don't miss it at all. I used to rank multiple accounts up per season but I have no desire to play on alts anymore because silver so unfun to play in lol.
thats because so many silvers arent real silver players.
PzyXo1 votesMe in a ranked game before it start :
Yasuo, have you ever considered why humans wish to live? Humans live hoping to conquer their anxieties and fear, and attain peace of mind. Seeking fame, controlling others, and acquiring wealth are all done to achieve peace of mind. Marriage and friendship are also pursued as means of attaining peace of mind. When humans say they wish to help others, or that a thing is done for love or justice...it's all merely to give themselves peace of mind. To achieve peace of mind is the goal of all mankind. Now, given that, what anxiety could you possibly feel towards playing normally? Any other peace of mind would come easily if you do. Doesn't challenging me, even knowing that it may spell your lose, bring you anxiety? You are a very capable Yasuo player. It's a waste to lose you (No homo). Why not cut ties with other Yasuo players and the others, and join me for eternity? I can promise you winning for eternity.
Barkley2 votesPlease share your drugs.
SEKAI1 votesPlease share your drugs.
fyi, that quote is actually a modified version of this
Polnareff, have you ever considered why humans wish to live? Humans live hoping to conquer their anxieties and fear, and attain peace of mind. Seeking fame, controlling others, and acquiring wealth are all done to achieve peace of mind. Marriage and friendship are also pursued as means of attaining peace of mind. When humans say they wish to help others, or that a thing is done for love or justice...it's all merely to give themselves peace of mind. To achieve peace of mind is the goal of all mankind. Now, given that, what anxiety could you possibly feel towards serving me? Any other peace of mind would come easily if you do. Doesn't challenging me, even knowing that it may spell your death, bring you anxiety? You are a very capable Stand user. It's a waste to kill you. Why not cut ties with Joestar and the others, and serve me for eternity? I can promise you peace of mind for eternity
It's a speech given to Polnareff by DIO in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 3: Stardust Crusader when the latter attempted to persuade the former to join him instead of fighting him.