A reasonable nerf to Yasuo

Darth West·May 8, 2017·17 votes·1,011 views

Option 1: Take away his shield entirely, as a previous Yasuo main I see no reason for him to have it and it causes for unhealthy game play.

Option 2: Whenever he uses his Wind Wall it halves his crit rate for a additional 5-8 seconds depending on the level of the wall.

With option 2 I feel him using his wall should make him think a bit more before using it. I feel it's unhealthy that he can just drop down a wall and still do insane damage after your spell/auto attacks gets deleted by the wall, thus lowering his damage to make it more riskier for him.

18 Comments

TEA Nietzsche May 8, 201710 votes

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Option 1: Take away his shield entirely, as a previous Yasuo main I see no reason for him to have it and it causes for unhealthy game play.

Lmao. "Reasonable"

Nakid GnomeMay 8, 20178 votes

_Option 1: Take away his shield entirely, as a previous Yasuo main I see no reason for him to have it and it causes for unhealthy game play. _

... uh huh

tell me all about your previous "yasuo main" history

Spicy RiceMay 8, 20177 votes

Yep, that was my first reaction.

No actual yasuo main will ever tell you he doesn't need the passive shield.

Well, not unless they are boosted monkeys/mained tank yasuo

Nameless DrifterMay 8, 20176 votes

Yasuo doesnt need any nerfs. Learn to counterplay.

ThefrostyvikingMay 8, 20172 votes

And how does this counterplay you write of work?

Chainstuns via rammus?

Darius?

Because windwall negates the existance of ranged champions while he fights the melee ones. It´s extremely damm frustrating to deal with. Winning 1v3 isn't even impossible given a bit of luck regarding matchups.

dominusxMay 8, 20173 votes

negating the existance of melee champs -insert most adcs here. l2p yas is garbage.

ThefrostyvikingMay 8, 20172 votes

Which melee gets negated by ranged ones? Most ADC's will choose to run away from any melee that goes anywhere near them unless they have a powerful support nearby to help.

Quinn being the exception but her playrate dropping is a good indicator that she lost that role.

And Yas is garbage? Are you drunk?

Do you perhaps know who APDO is? Korea's best soloq midlaner?

He has named Yasuo as not one of, but THE most broken league champ to date. Who are you to argue with a guy who spanked the hell outa faker for ages? He is only inferior in teamplay in which faker happens to be a god in.

But if you insist to argue? Go ahead.....but i think i know who to believe in between Korea's god of soloq and some no name unraked guy from EUNE ._.

dominusxMay 8, 20172 votes

Who are YOU to talk to ME about something someone else said. This isnt even your oppinion. Just because someone said something you chew on it like a bubblegum. You are a plat player ofc you think Yasuo is broken you are bad at the game. I'm not gonna trashtalk you because i like your name. End of discussion.

ThefrostyvikingMay 8, 20171 votes

Not my words? Absolutely true, but why would i choose to use someone elses words over my own?

Because the guy whose words i am copying is a frigging top lvl master who is probably the most qualified player in the entire damm world to say which champion does what.

It's the same as listening to a lesson held by a top notch scientist, they tell you that they've studied and found something amazing and you sit there being marveling at whatever the scientist presented completely naturally, not questioning if it's true or not.

Because it's only natural that the people who worked and studied something for ages are the most qualified to talk about it, so "normal people" will reference and quote them and naturally no one will call them out on that, because they know that the guy behind the words is the most qualified to make statements on whatever the matter is.

Which is exactly what i did, one of the absolutely best league players among millions has stated that Yasuo is the most broken champ bar none, i referenced this and you call me a sheep that can't think for myself? Meaning that you mean to discredit the best player and call me an idiot for believing his words? Implying that you know better?

What does that make you? Superior to APDO? Better than the best midlaner in Korea? While writing from an unranked account? Even if you were former diamond it would still be hella arrogant to call yourself better than APDO.

Please take care of your head, your ego is overflowing to a ridiculous degree.

dominusxMay 8, 20172 votes

The reasons as to why YOU think its broken and to why APDO think its strong are like sun and moon. You probably and 90% of the community cant even play Yasuo at a high level. Do i think Yas is balanced? Fuck no that Wall of his is broken to no end and has no counterplay cause it an insta cast. But do i think Yas is broken cause i cant dodge a fucking Q in lane and get cheese by him like you and everyone else does? No. And yes i will call you a sheep cause you have no oppinion of your own. Oh a pro said that must be true i cant think to myself why he/she said that i'll just copy pasta it everywhere and make it an argument. LOL. By that logic just because i used to be diamond 2 i can say Yorick is broken cause he counters my main toplaner and that would be true. Kek.

ThefrostyvikingMay 8, 20171 votes

I can beat Yasuo in lane, I can beat him quite hard even, play pretty much any one of the non support champions that i´ve got over lvl 6 (that would be around 20 champions )

It would even be considered hard to lose lane against him with some of those champions.

But how the heck does one deal with his windwall if his team engages and he just droops it infront of the ranged backline? Melee and his team on one side and your backline on the other? I have never found answer to this.

How does one deal with him dealing insane amounts of damage while also able to build tankily to the point of killing squishies before they can take half his health and then healing back up in under a minute? I played Shyv and in lategame with a build like item 3047 item 1419 item 3153 item 3143 item 3742 item 3512 being 1 item ahead i still lost 90% hp killing the opposing Yasuo.

Do i think Yasuo is such an easy champ to play? NO, definitely not.

However like with Azir at a point, if people dedicated enough time then they become extremely hard to counter and and nigh impossible to beat. You can force them to lose farm in lane but you won't kill them, all one can do is stall and delay then he gets enough items to just brute force his way around and becomes unstoppable if the players is good enough.

I am fine with a champion having a high potential ability in exhange for a high skill floor and ceiling.

However Yasuo doesn't actually take that much skill due to the fact that he is a crit user.

if he was a squishy ADC he would at least die for the slightest mispositioning, he would be beaten 1v1 by a number of champions.

But fact is, he acts like a hybrid between skirmisher and assassin.

Huge amounts of burst, enough durability to prevent being oneshot and then huge amounts of DPS. And He got crowd control, 2 different ones that both real good amounts of damage too.

It's pretty much necessary that you must hit him and kill him before he can start dealing damage because otherwise he´ll rampage and cause his team to win since he is so damm strong.

He wouldn't be an issue with just a few good traits, but he has too many of them. Windwall, CC, Burst,dps, survivability and mobility (conditional but quite favorable still) as well as movement speed.

And that passive....

TotalJerkMay 8, 20173 votes

These are honestly some of the dumbest nerfs I've seen here. It's like you don't even understand why his kit is designed the way it is. But of course you put "Yasuo nerf" in the title, so the boards are gonna blindly upvote it.

SalronMay 8, 20173 votes

"Reasonable" "Former Yasuo main"

Why is this board nothing but compusive liars?

DeclareasMay 8, 20172 votes

The first suggestion is obscenely heavy handed. Straight up removing the shield would require compensation buffs in other parts of his kit, perhaps his miserable base stats, otherwise his effectiveness would plummet. He'd also lose the Passive-R interaction, which is a pretty fun way for Yas to survive a close fight, but ok. Otherwise, you're suggesting that Windwall cut his dps in half, literally. He isn't Azir, his existence isn't inherently problematic for game balance. I won't say he's the most fair champ in the game, but he's far from the worst offender, and the changes you are suggesting would destroy him. The Yasuo hate circlejerk is getting more obnoxious than the Graves cigar meme at this point.