I'm tired of this...

iLBGAMing·Oct 20, 2017·1 votes·508 views

I picked as ADC, and we had as our "SUPPORT". Everything was fine for the most time and then I noticed that zyra decided to go top and then I realised that and were premade and they both were feeding their ass off to the enemy . Meanwhile I had to deal with a on my own, my jungler never even ganked, not once which tbh didn't really bother me that much but I thought I would mention it regardless.

I'm just tired of all these trolls I have to face a lot as of late. I feel that the role of "support" needs to be changed in terms of what champions apply to the support role, some great examples are.. .

Why do these champions clarify as supports, when they don't even support you in any way besides add more damage in fights....

They call out support, buy one AP support item and then go full ap...

13 Comments

Ambient SnowOct 20, 20171 votes

Zyra, Annie Malz and malph are great supports..

lux and fiddle i can agree with though i'm more so ok with a fiddles support if they know how to harass.

but any ways its more how the person plays with them to make them a support then their abilities, malphite has great harass. and so does malhazar his supression is great and a easy kill for the adc.. and his space aids is great for shielding champ counters.

Zyra, i've seen some scripters who use her so your plants auto focus hero's instead of what she targets.. but other then that, she isn't to bad if are good at micromanaging seeds.

Annie is just a stun bot if you build her support she still has that stun rotation that makes her deadly . and locks people down shes great at stunning and doing that job and tibbers is great counter to ganks and overly aggressive teams.

iLBGAMingOct 20, 20171 votes

I agree with what you stated, but I don't feel as if those champions who only offer CC should be considered supports at all.

Drive By MaxOct 21, 20171 votes

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I agree with what you stated, but I don't feel as if those champions who only offer CC should be considered supports at all.

Thresh and blitz aren't supports in your eyes? What about naut? Leona? Alistar?

iLBGAMingOct 21, 20171 votes

Thresh is a support because of the whole lantern thing, and provides good peel for ADC

Drive By MaxOct 21, 20171 votes

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Thresh is a support because of the whole lantern thing, and provides good peel for ADC

That's because he has CC.

Kuronii LumiiraOct 20, 20171 votes

Zyra and Annie are decent supports, in my eyes. They offer poke and decent CC, but Zyra does end up messing with the wave a bit thanks to her plants. I don't feel like Malphite or Malzahar are good as supports before they get to level 6. Malzahar has the same problem as Zyra, where his voidlings will mess up wave trimming, and Malphite has no access to CC outside of his ultimate. He's also easily kited against the smarter enemy duos.

L Psy KongrooOct 20, 20171 votes

Pretty sure no one plays Malz support anymore.

The rest of those offer more than just damage; they have enough utility and cc built into their kits that supporting with them is technically possible, it's just not optimal.

iLBGAMingOct 20, 20171 votes

This guy did lol [sg-ezreal] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJaHOyVt98M&t=43s

OxsiOct 20, 20171 votes

As a support main I agree you had a pretty crappy game. Your support is supposed to be there for you and help you get rolling. Tbh though, I do pick AP supports and buy sight stone and support item then straight AP. But I don't do it for no reason. Do it when my team lacks ap. Never go top, unless I'm support Shen and see a fight top I will ping my ADC off and ult. I don't understand why people who duo tend to play around each other. When I duo and see my friend falling behind I focus on the carries and keep objectives warded. Zyra going top with Garen not only hurt you but hurt Garen too. Taking his XP and not only giving the Renekton one kill but two.

iLBGAMingOct 20, 20171 votes

God bless Shen players in times like these <3

AlmoOct 20, 20171 votes

AP support can help carry you as well. Annie is really strong against low mobility ADCs. Annie brings a lot of damge through auto attacks, aoe ult. the same apply for the list of supports you don't like on your list.

You just had a bad game. Cheer up!

Taliyah RocksOct 20, 20171 votes

Don't consider ''support'' mages as supports, but as botlane mages. Unlike supports which synergize with their adc, mages have the potential to carry on their own.

Much like junglers that pick support items like ardent censer or knight's vow, mages are flexible picks that offer good pick potential, and most of them can suffer an income loss and still offer their team the same amount of utility.

BoomTitaniumOct 21, 20171 votes

You just haven't run into a good Lux support. I build tank Lux that isn't afraid to get in there and Shield and return fire. By the time we are out of laning phase my adc and I have taken over the game and they have 2 damage items with like 3 to 4 kills and over 120 CS, First Blood Tower to boot. I think a lot of adcs and supports dont really understand how to play the different match ups and what to expect and what is okay and what isnt okay. The following is sort of the rules that I personally have found to be successful.

My rules as support: I am the early game carry. You focus on farming and poking, not deciding when to all in. You are my b*&ch until we out this lane. If you get out of position it is not my job to save you if I think it will make us both get killed. If I get engaged on you attack whoever the biggest threat at the time;IE Soraka over Vayne but Vayne over Thresh modified by current life totals etc, If you are playing ADC then you should know this calculation if not Just attack who Im attacking. If I ping you better listen to it.

My rules as ADC: You better not take my CS, You better not let CS waste/die to turret or enemy minions, You better know how to harass enemies safely. You need to understand MY RANGE AND POSITIONING and NOT go all in when there is no possible way I can get there. If I get engaged on you must Weave as many autos as you can while you are casting your spells! DONT YOU DARE RUN AWAY like a little chode when you could have dealt 500 -/+ damage in this fight over the space of 7 - 10 autos. *sigh Yes it triggers me that in 2017 this is not a standard practice among all Support mains...., FINALLY After we leave this lane you find the carry and follow them. IF I'm not carrying then go help the team while I solo farm EXP and come back with a vengeance....

LOL TLDR I Know but any of those support mages can follow this to the TEE and I'm fine with that...