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3 Reasons why you aren't climbing in SoloQ explained in detail.

Ready 2 B Blamed··1 votes·1,077 views

Reason 1: Mindset The key thing to climbing elo that even I and the top league players have trouble with is having the proper mindset. 99% of this game is filled with toxic players. Yes, that probably includes the players that come into the game thinking "I am not gonna get distracted and act toxic". 5 minutes into the game your arguing with a team member, bitching about how bad the other is. Not to mention, you are just gonna keep on going with a toxic mindset until you take a break and detilt; only to start the process all over again. This is an issue for ALL players. Even the ones who THINK their doing good just because their score looks good. Keep in mind, a 6/15 can possibly be doing better than a 15/6 just because the 6/15 is in a calm state of mind that he is just doing so much around the map and playing around his strengths. Although, if you are doing well and you are acting toxic. Wtf man. That's actually the worst person that can tilt, because they are probably the main carry of the team and your not only tilting yourself but tilting your team. Just focus on how you play and don't tilt. It is as simple as that. The mindset you need should result in this at the least: Mindset that doesn't tilt you or your team. So long as you have mastered a mindset that can provide those specifically, then you easily have the potential to be challenger. No joke. That's all it takes. Simply because you can take all the time you want to get better at that game, it really isn't that hard. The true test is finding that perfect mindset.

Reason 2: Your playing something that can't really carry At least in lower elo you can really carry with anything. And I mean literally ANYTHING. But if you wanna be able to carry every game . You have to face the fact that it has to be alligned with these key factors: 1. Meta (or at least somewhere alligned in the meta aspect) 2. Something you know for sure you can carry with. 3. Knowing your weaknesses with the champion you play and playing around it There is so many players who do so poorly because they wanna be rebels or they THINK something is spectacularly good. I will go over these things. Keep in mind I am a jungle main, so I guess I am mostly talking about in the aspect of junglers:

1.Tanks: Tanks are just NOT carries. You think Tahm Kench is OP? ( Honestly, I don't think so but w/e) Ok. So you play Tahm every time. Let's say you are playing Cinderhulk Tahm Kench jungle. You know what you bring to the table but you got nothing that can eliminate a target instantly or end the fights in a blink of an eye. You are good in sustained fights, which let's be honest even if the fights are lasting awhile; the fight can end just like that at any given moment. So, the fight starts and you go on the backline: ZED ULTS ON YOUR MF AND SHE DIES. Your aced. Why? Because your a tank and tanks can't carry on their own generally speaking. "Oh, how about I peel for MF?" Their team jumped on your Ahri and killed her. Your aced. Why? Because even if you peel for someone keep in mind you are not peeling for EVERYONE. Not to mention, just because you "peel" for someone, it doesn't mean she is guaranteed to survive. Just the fact that it took 1 Zed to take your MF and yourself out of the fight puts you at a heavy disadvantage already. This was the reason almost every jungler ended in divisions lower than they normally do. I ended S4 Diamond and I think I ended plat this season? No nvm I decayed to gold after I stopped playing. lol. Yeah, S5 you literally had to only play tank junglers or it just wasn't fair. Anyways, just keep in mind that when someone says "Oh! but tanks totally win games! We need a tank" Those people probably don't know jackshit on how to carry on their own. Just be your own carry and DONT PICK TANKS. If one of your teammates pick a tank, awesome! May make it a little bit easier for you to carry. If your entire team is full of carries, that just means everyone has the intention to carry and this is soloQ. Team comp doesn't matter in the end. That said, focus on your own play at all times.

2.Devourer Devourer is like the cheat code you wanna use to just be a broken monstrosity that can carry the game 1v5 late-game. There's just one issue. At all times of the game before you reach that spike you are vulnerable. Your anus is literally opened to the enemy.. "OH! but the enemy in my elo don't know how to invade and take advantage of my weak early stage!" It doesn't matter! Even if they let you freefarm, it's probably because they are too busy ganking all of your lanes until the game snowballs hard enough for you to not even own your jungle. In which case, you can't farm your dev and the game keeps on snowballing and you lost. If you play devourer, your idea is to just farm out the entire game until you reach that spike you so desperately need. "Well, I play a lot of Udyr and I gank a lot and I farm my devourer. Your opinion is invalid!" First of all, Udyr is shit at ganking. His gankability is roughly better than that of Shyvanas or Volibears. It is really difficult to successfully gank with udyr unless the laner is literally under your tower. Second of all,that is extremely inefficient, because you stop farming for your power spike to get a gank off. What is the point of setting yourself behind by purchasing devourer if your trying to play the early game as if you intended to win early. Eh? You lose a few stacks per minute just because of the gank you don't even know will succeed. Third of all, you are counting on your teammates to win lane phase or at the very least last until the late-game without giving a hard lead, even though the game is 4v5 for about 25 minutes roughly. And that is just saying if you guys ACTUALLY survive with a bare minimum in terms of towers, gold ect. Literally, the only time devourer is good (at this moment) is IF you trust your team 100% to survive and even then your win is NOT guaranteed. It is literally worse than tanks, it is the most inconsistent way to try and carry!

3.Absolutely broken shit I don't even know what people consider "broken" at this point. Everyone saying "Rengar is broken asf". Look, I hate Rengar. I don't play him because he is such a boring champion and I hate his kit and everything about him really. I am (was) a Kha'zix player and he is just a much more interesting champion. But people say "Rengar is broken". Wtf? Rengar is about as broken as AD Anivia! "Rito says he's broken! He must be!" A champions isn't broken just because you don't know what the fuck to do when you literally SEE him coming to you! No counterplay my ass! I counterplay the shit out of Rengars all the fucking time! Granted, I am a jungler. I do not share the same position as other players. But, if your telling me you cannot properly time your Ezreal E or even your flash just to get away from 1 OF THE MANY CHAMPS THAT CAN 1-SHOT YOU (Rengar isn't the only one that can do that? Oh shit didn't notice!" Especially when you can SEE it coming... I am sorry it isn't Rengar you are just really bad. Yeah, mistakes happen and surprises can hit you in which Rengar can kill you. That is acceptable. But seriously, you people complain endlessly about this and he's been in the game and relevant for so damn long! Why are you still having so much trouble with this silly bastard? Sorry I ranted a bit there, just the truth... Anyways, people play champs that are broken and think they can win. It is just so silly! Y'know that one player who thinks that they can absolutely carry the game just because the champ they play is broken as shit? Fuck that guy! Although there is a few champs who I consider are broken atm: Ryze, Soraka, Zed and Graves. And the only one who I can really say has NO counterplay is Ryze.

Reason 3: You are not learning from mistakes Just like how I explained with the Rengar situation. You simply aren't taking the time to learn from your mistakes. You are never 1 step ahead and you are taken advantage of every time simply because it doesn't trigger in your mind that you can outplay this the next time it happens. You are too stubborn to think back on the previous game and realize you made mistakes! You may think that this seem like the same reason as reason 1. That this is another mindset issue and IT IS. But it is an issue that is so grand, that it is its own issue that you need to solve. Throw away your pride and admit that you made a mistake or two. Hell, if you played perfectly every game that means you win every game. "No matter how well I play I cannot carry a game on my own!" It is probably a fact that nobody can really play perfectly. Well, it is possible but not consistently. But the fact of the matter is that it is very possible! There is so many ways to play the game and many decisions you can make that 1 player can easily outmaneuver the enemy in every way possible. Just think of it this way: Can Faker carry this game? Yes he can, then so can I. We all have the same potential.

Anyways I am done.

32 Comments

Envy Sin3 votes

Last reason, You're trying to rise in rank right this second, Where all the people with very similar ranks as you last season are also trying to rise. So even if you were plat and you're in gold now. SO ARE THE REST OF THE PLATS.

So many people forget this. Hell even high silver is currently FILLED with plats. i see 2-4 plat boarders a game at silver 1.

Ready 2 B Blamed2 votes

^ I wasn't involving the current situation with this post as I just wanted to go over this for anyone that had/having trouble. But yea pretty much.

Envy Sin3 votes

Lol, Just pointing this out.

People go "Oh you're just a silver 1 noob."

And i go,"Yeah playing with nothing but high golds/low plats from last season lol"

khorney1 votes

no yi isnt banned xin isnt banned and peopel ban mundo for what ever reason

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Probably because Mundo actually has some gank pressure early on compared to yi. Xin just isn't good. Like, he has gank pressure early its just he isn't better than the other early pressure junglers in terms of jungle clear, and his gankability is fine it's just not better than say Kindred or Nidalee. Also he has no good build path that can support early game pressure without making him fall completely off later. You have to go bruiser just to stay relevant. Yes there's devourer, but if you took the time to read you'd understand why that isn't something people will want to do...

khorney1 votes

mundo is easy to kill i go varus and spank him. xin yi jax win games by them selves.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I don't fully agree with the mundo bans myself but he is a good champion overall. Jax is a good top laner but you are exaggerrating. Xin is just terrible.. Yi can carry games but considering how much it takes to get to that point, he's not worth picking under any circumstances.

BluePolarizer1 votes

I don't understand why you, as a former plat, wastes time by arguing with bronzes/silvers. It is not our duty to educate the unwilling. In my opinion, high level solo queue (plat+, especially plat3+) is very rewarding for tanks because tanks punish mistakes hard and in high elo every mistake is more costly. In higher elos the game is much more unequal in terms of gold distribution for each role and highly rewards gold efficiency. That's why tanks and tanky bruisers like Mundo simply win games: they can simply build 1 thing and be effective while every other class, especially other melee classes, have to build both damage and defense.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I know it is strange, but I like to give information to players, unwilling or not. I think I should at least try to educate them as best I can. As far as your argument with tanks go: You assume that plat is high elo. Honestly, the only elo high enough in which you can say "I can trust these players to carry" is challenger and even then there is still a select few I would NOT trust. I have played hundreds of tank jungles in plat elo high or low. Trust me, the only thing that changes is that some players are mechanically better. Even so, mechanics alone don't win games and it's not really that their much better (this is comparing plat to gold). and yes maybe players are more willing to cooperate. However, that does not mean I would go a tank jungler just to compliment these players. Because at the end of the day, I know how to carry by myself. I understand win conditions and I know how the enemy jungler is gonna play in most cases. I just need to use my information and games should be easy for me. There's no point in me relying on my carries if I can do everything myself. You say tanks punish mistakes more. Honestly, what if your alone? If your alone and your a damage dealer, you easily punish this mistake because you can assasinate the enemy on your own. The assumption I think you are making is that your with your carries and you know you can punish this mistake. Then yeah, it is easier simply because you have CC and your bringing a damage dealer. Tanks can be effective just by building 1 thing? I think you are misinterpreting things off of LCS games again. The idea is just off of like 1 or 2 tank items the tanks are useful. Why? Simply because they last longer, therefore, are able to affect the game longer with their kit. In turn, yes that does mean they are...not necessarily more effective just easier to be effective and consistently effective. The issue in soloQ is that you can be as effective as much as you like; That "effectiveness" simply is used to annoy the enemy or help your carries rack up kills/picks. You see the issue? You can't rely on your team to follow-up on something like that. It is not that it's bad, it is simply that it is soloQ. That's why it's a lot easier to just pick up an assassin that can carry and eliminate one of the enemies carries and be done with it.

BluePolarizer1 votes

and if you fail you could instantly lose the game and you are more likely to fail because your on a jungle budget.

that's why most diamonds recommend picking hard engage or adcs to climb, not assassins.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Saying if you fail you instantly lose the game is an overexaggerration. Putting assassins aside here considering I was only using them as an example as 1 of the types of champs that you can use to carry. Keep in mind that I really don't care if "diamond" players think a different way they have their way of winning, fine. If it works, fine. I just simply don't think it is is the best. But yes, adcs seem to be the best types of carries atm. Back on topic, I said that if you are so sure of yourself that you can carry on your own with what your playing then you shouldn't fail. That is the point. Just because your gold income as a jungler is limited it does not mean you are "more likely to fail". That would just be an excuse in saying "I don't know how to manage my gold as a jungler" it is something we all have to learn. For example: Can I build Black Cleaver? considering how many times i've had to back just to buy pieces of it, it is becoming really inefficient making me weaker than I could be right now. Sure it may pay off later on but at this point, I won't be able to do much I should have gone for a more efficient route like Tiamat or even Sterak's Gage and changed the way I build from there. As a Shaco main, gold efficiency is key! I have to consistently make efficient buys every time I back. First buy is tiamat, I got tiamat ok. Next is IE. This is where it gets complicated. I buy B.F. sword if I have the max amount of gold needed for the biggest piece. Don't have enough? Buy the pickaxe. Don't have enough for pickaxe but would rather maintain a reliable source of damage to increase your burst instead of the useless crit cloak? Buy Kircheis Shard. Don't have enough for Kircheis shard? (Then holy shit your really behind.. which means you fucked up somewhere, just buy a dagger) You see managing your gold as a jungler is more like a skill, it is just more informational and not mechanical, obviously.

BluePolarizer1 votes

my opinion is that to get to diamond you have to think like a diamond which is why I prefer to use strategies and mentalities proven in high elo rather than go for cheese builds.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I think you drastically changed the subject lol. And did I mention any cheese builds? How do builds become "cheesy" anyways? I am so confused lol. Keep in mind that when your using builds from higher elo that you learn why this player built what he did and don't just blindly copy it because you don't know if that build will work every time. For example: Meteos builds something like uhh.. Iceborn Gauntlet 2nd on Elise. Why did he build it? The likely scenario is because their main damage threat at that moment is AD. Why gauntlet over Deadman's Plate? He probably wants to transition into a more utility sort of Elise. The times he may build deadman's plate is usually early on when he's still ganking so he can move faster to do the obvious. I could go a lot more in-depth on this but the point is: Make sure your researching what your building.

Note: Thinking like a "diamond" is pretty much the same as thinking like a plat or gold really... Some are smart but some are also arrogant fools. I have some diamond friends who I like to theorycraft with at times and I know 1 that is doing a sort of coaching academy and whatnot. He's really smart but really his expertise only extends to the mid-lane as he is a mid main.

khorney1 votes

there is a reason i take varus against mundo he simply cant do much at all against varus, but youll simply say that the many people that were mundo simply sucked and that i got lucky , there is a reason they made lord domicks and comboing that with botrk is to legit

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Or I could say... Varus counters Mundo? Maaaaaybeeeee? I mean most adcs are good against Mundo simply because they can kite him, unless your immobile like MF. But Varus has his ult and slow so it makes sense.

khorney1 votes

% damage grievous wounds cc ult. vayne is the only other person who can bully top laners other then varus in my opinion the thing with varus is regardless if i go ap or ad i still lvl the moves the same . max w then e then q im no there to waste mana and poke with my q more aa harass with my w becuase it does work. ap is just a little stronger beucase its burst and ad i build ord domicks and botrk always, and i use fervor of battle with both

khorney1 votes

yes like the guy said why are you talking to silver players its a different elo there champ yi jax and xin carry in this elo mundo does not people ban him becuase people only look at win rates with out actually playing agasint him. once those 3 get sated its over good luck trying to win. but hey just becuase i was dropped to bronze doesnt give you the right to think that i suck.

BluePolarizer1 votes

being bronze or silver does mean you suck.

BluePolarizer1 votes

The higher elo you go the more tanks can carry because mistakes are punished harder. If you haven't noticed, in the LCS a warrior-> full tank Lee Sin or Rek'Sai, or full tank Gragas, or sightstone Elise (not damage elise, tank elise) frequently destroys enemy ADCs that are even a centimeter out of position.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Question is: Am I talking about LCS? Or am I talking about your average every day soloQ game? I think it's common knowledge that an LCS game is an entirely different game compared to soloQ. Soooo you should probably figure out what I am talking about. c;

khorney1 votes

im pretty much a boss as janna supp however she cant do much if your team has no damage which is why i like to go ziggs or zil supp because yes i build supp but i go ap simply becuase the damage is there. also i like to go top leo or top taric or varus(whether its ap or ad) he does kill people early lane and regardless i max w then e not so much q becuase im not goign to be poking. top leo and taric are more for the jugnler to get fed and they both have good clears off there w and once they get iceborn, leo i like to get tri force with becuase its easy for her to kill the squishy more so then taric because taric has no gap closer like leo does. does this work yes it does do i win all the time no cant help it if i go 15 and 4 multple times as varus up top and lose what do you want. xin jax and yi rape me if i do npot have flash up. if i do then they can be more managebale simply wait for them to dive flash then ult them and hope for the best

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes
  1. I am not a support main but I do know it is possible to carry with supports. I do not have that information but a lot of support mains climb the ladder and very effectively too. So, you can try and search for that if you play mainly supports. You say you play Taric and Leo top for the "jungler to get fed"? Again, your relying on your team to carry the game which is just not a good idea. Let's start from the bare minimum of this equation: First, what if your jungler never comes to gank your lane? You wasted your pick because of the reasoning you play it is to rely on your jungler. "Oh! But I call for my jungler to come!" And then what are the chances of him coming? First, people probably think your trolling... just saying... second, junglers can be arrogant at times although it could be rational thinking to not gank your lane. Why? Because a lot of junglers' way of thinking is "If I snowball this lane we can get tower and transition this 1- lane snowball to all the other lanes" Which is a common strategy when you have someone like Riven in the top lane. Taric or Leona lane isn't a lane to snowball because they don't exactly become as strong as someone like Riven, they just don't have the same snowball power. Third, it doesn't always work out. Think about it, if you make the call at the wrong time; your jungler is ganking for you and then gets counter-ganked simply because you made this call not knowing where the enemy jungler is. "Hey! but that is the junglers' job! To be aware of where the jungler is!" I like to think it is my job, but that is just me as the smarter player. If your reliant on yourself then YOU should be the one to keep in mind where the enemy jungler is, that is just map awareness. Fourth, it worked out but something is wrong. What is it? Oh! The enemy jungler is snowballing mid or/and bot! At this point, it doesn't matter if you won your 2v1 lane because the only person that got fed was your jungler (In most cases, this should be you but your arguing that you do this in order to feed your jungler). Usually the jungler is on the bottom bar in this whole equation, because while laners are fed and keep in mind laners have unlimited source of gold income and xp. Junglers have somewhat limited sources, even if he focuses on ganking your lane that means he sacrificed his time to farm in order to do this specific task. Making it pretty negligable when you think about it. Because he can be 5/0 and have like what? 20 farm 25 minutes in. Sure, it may be a good trade-off but at the end of the day, the laners that are fed off their asses are much stronger and have levels above him. Not to mention, they have bigger numbers.

"xin jax and yi rape me if i do npot have flash up. if i do then they can be more managebale simply wait for them to dive flash then ult them and hope for the best" Well you have to think, why are they at this level of strength? (nice english btw? no offense lol). Why are champions like yi or xin even this strong? That's what I would ask every time! Be aware, that these champions can be easily punished early and even mid game. There's no reason for them to reach late-game. Even if they reach late game, xin is shit late-game let's be real lol. Jax ehh I know he's strong but it's not like he has no counterplay. He has a lot of counterplay, just be aware of him is all. Yi is VERY strong late-game. Still, he is probably one of the most easiest champions to kill should you get on him FIRST. Like, he's very vulnerable to CC and even if he builds a tank item then he should be relatively easy to kill. If he built a 2nd tank item it's safe to say he's actually not that strong; so, it just takes a little extra time to kill him no big deal ( and probably not even) Yi is the prime example of what a devourer jungler should be. It does not mean devourer junglers is a concept worth accounting for in soloQ ever! The only devourer jungler that had any sort of spotlight was Shyvana. Why? Because Shyvana was a strong late-game monster that had at least half of the damage Yi currently has late but just faster at dishing it out and the fact that she can be this super tank while doing that was broken! Although, none of this is the reason why she was really all that strong. It is simply because she actually had another spike in the game which she can say "Hey! Unlike all the other useless devourer junglers I am relevant during the mid-game!" Her ganking was just as shitty as the other devourer junglers but she had very strong counter- gankability considering her strength mostly around lvl 9. This was the point where early game junglers would fall off just a tad in terms of skirmishes or even 1v1s. Even during the early game junglers were scared if they got counter- ganked by Shyvana not really so much because she was stronger, just the fact that Shyvana is probably more aware of what I am going to be doing so she will take advantage and counter gank so I have to be careful. I know this is how Shyvanas thought because like I said, Shyvanas ganking alone is absolute garbage! Even post 6. So, Shyvanas typically waited for the enemy jungler to gank in order to counter-gank thus is why Shyvanas were so good previously. Thankfully, not anymore. Point is: Punish champions like yi just for picking that champ. If you don't that's your mistake and that's why you lose a game against him.

khorney1 votes

and ziggs supp does work just a version of velkoz supp save ur w to disenage the adc and u have the aoe slow which does work

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

Azir.Because he is completely garbage but Riot still don't buff him.

TheDiff1 votes

idk about that. You can't really carry a game when someone goes 1/10 or someone afks.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Miracles happen. I've seen them, been a part of them and even made them in rare occasions. I do not entirely disagree, but I know that it is possible.

TheDiff1 votes

I know that, but the chances of that happening would be, like what, 5-10% of those types of games?

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Well it really depends on the mindset of the players.

2yftLP0KQC1 votes

3 reason why you aren't climbing out of solo q

  1. team is shit
  2. you probably have dumb kid whos on tilt and decides to troll/afk
  3. solo q is shit. let's face it. in a league 5x5 game. u get about 3 guys that are decent, and 7 retards. it's almost nearly impossible to carry someones slack. it's so god damn painful.

i constantly get those retards that die in lane 3 times and they continue fighting the same person and getting the same results and then they start blaming everyone and after they die like 10 more times they decided to rage quit because the team is "garbage" (LOL?).

riot needs to allow teams of 2-5 people to join a rank queue in summoner's rift's. even if you duo q you're already at an unfair disadvantage since you will queued with better players. ie you're duo silver, you will get queued with gold players. so in other words, you get penalized for playing with better team communication and coordination.

very rarely have i actually played a game where someone doesn't afk, tilt, rage quick, trolls, or feeds.

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

Prime example of a player you shouldn't be...

Protokai1 votes

for some reason i was thinking when i clicked on this there would only be "you suck" in the body of your text i was pleasantly surprised

Ready 2 B Blamed1 votes

I know how stupid the community could be although I like jokes like that they are innocent enough lol.

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