Is conqueror too strong?

YoungFarmer··5 votes·1,796 views

It doesn't seem op to me but shit it does a lot of damage, when I run arcane comet I don't even break 5 k damage with it, meanwhile I'm seeing kids rocking 10s of thousands of true damage just from the conqueror rune.

A kled I just played against did 45000 physical damage and 11000 true damage :o

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PhearBunny2 votes

yes, its too strong.

Mcsquzzy2 votes

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kaironen2 votes

Conqueror is definitely too strong/op.

BLIGHTBRINGER2 votes

I saw a Jax with no damage items (item 1401 item 3111 ) deal around a total 4k damage with Conquer within a 13 minute mark. Seems legit.

Automated Riven2 votes

The rune simply converts damage to true damage. 11000 damage may look like a lot but that is not a damage amp. That is simply damage he already have which is converted to true damage. (granted there is a bit of a damage amp as true damage ignores armor) but I would wager it's probably about on par with any other rune as far as bonus damage goes.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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The rune simply converts damage to true damage. 11000 damage may look like a lot but that is not a damage amp. That is simply damage he already have which is converted to true damage. (granted there is a bit of a damage amp as true damage ignores armor) but I would wager it's probably about on par with any other rune as far as bonus damage goes.

Idk man, I was playing full armor Maokai and I fought him at one point, granted he was fed. But i had item 3075 item 3800 item 3047 item 1401 and with red buff and conq he did something like 1300 true damage to me over the duration of the fight. Was crazy

Automated Riven2 votes

Probably because after armor 50-60% of the damage he was dealing to you was true damage because everything else got reduced.

YoungFarmer1 votes

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Probably because after armor 50-60% of the damage he was dealing to you was true damage because everything else got reduced.

Perhaps perhaps, it wasn't a very extended fight, it took him maybe, 5-8 seconds to kill me from 90%-100% hp can't remember exactly.

Lord of Math1 votes

It may not be that it is too strong but that the removal of fervor of battle was compensated with base stats and such, and now that they have a replacement, they are doing well with it.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Because Conqueror's numbers are misleading. It shows you 'damage converted to true damage', not 'extra damage dealt because it was converted to true damage'.

What would be the difference? Let's say my auto deals 100, reduced by 50%. Conqueror right now says I deal 20 true damage. What it should say to be more accurate is I dealt 10 true damage.

Cyrusklep1 votes

I think the ONLY champ that truly breaks conqueror is darius, others are hella annoying but even then it's still beatable (unless the matchup just totally goes against you I suppose)

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