Remove Duskblade

Freeza with an I··3 votes·1,245 views

This isn't going to be a giant rant post cuz I got beat in a game, this is legit just from a player who's played since the original armor pen was in the game. Duskblade simply needs removed, it has been the sole cause of every issue with pen/lethality since it was added. The idea of giving anyone who uses it free damage (or the original free Zed ult) is bad game design. If you removed this, and added another armor pen item that added some bonus that wasn't just "do more damage next auto ig" then the issues with lethality would be a lot less noticeable. And as someone else said, they could use this to buff the current Lethality items we have. I just am sick of seeing lethality have issues cuz of one item, Duskblade was the ENTIRE reason why Pen was removed.

Seriously, can Riot stop introducing or reworking items and then fucking people over? They did it with Banner too, Banner never was OP or had any issues. But they reworked it, made it too strong, then were just like "yea its been too op for too long, bye bye". I digress, Duskblade causes too many issues for champions due to it's faulty design and removing it and replacing it with a new option would be a lot better. They could also do this and just remove lethality altogether, reverting it back to the old style of having armor pen.

As for what item could possibly replace duskblade, I honestly don't know. Maybe it would be fine if they just buffed pen back to the way it used to be. They could maybe even add pen back to BC, make it melee only, then release an alternative for ADC's. Either way would be fine with me, I'm just sick of a system being broken cause of one item and Riot not fixing that ONE item.

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Sir Saltarin2 votes

Man I thought that is fase was over on the Gameplay Boards

Freeza with an I1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NyUd066f,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-02T23:42:55.046+0000)

Man I thought that is fase was over on the Gameplay Boards

What-?

Sir Saltarin2 votes

Last Summer we had a wave of threads here that were summarized with

Dae Duskblade bad Dae Stormrazor bad

When Duskblade isn't a problem, it's a fine item get over it, there are balance problems in this game but what you say isn't one of them.

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Last Summer we had a wave of threads here that were summarized with

When Duskblade isn't a problem, it's a fine item get over it, there are balance problems in this game but what you say isn't one of them.

It literally is though? Since it was originally added, pen/lethality has had issues. We lost the pen system entirely due to the item.

Who Fed Ru2 votes

The idea of giving anyone who uses it free damage (or the original free Zed ult) is bad game design

"Free damage" The passive is in the items gold price included, like it's with every item.

Is any item that gives a offensive passive bad design now?

Freeza with an I1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NyUd066f,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-02T23:48:27.779+0000)

"Free damage" The passive is in the items gold price included, like it's with every item.

Is any item that gives a offensive passive bad design now?

I'll admit I said that poorly, what I meant was that assassins shouldn't get an item that's just "free damage next auto". Assassins should have items that grant them the way to get to a target and kill them easier, at least in my opinion. But I do agree it shouldn't be removed just due to that bonus, I think it should be removed due to the way it causes issues due to it being extremely strong.

Who Fed Ru1 votes

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I'll admit I said that poorly, what I meant was that assassins shouldn't get an item that's just "free damage next auto". Assassins should have items that grant them the way to get to a target and kill them easier, at least in my opinion. But I do agree it shouldn't be removed just due to that bonus, I think it should be removed due to the way it causes issues due to it being extremely strong.

It's not free damage from next auto tho, they only get the passive if they strike from being unseen, which is how they should be played.

And it's not even close to being extremely strong anymore, it got nerfed multiple times and many players now go item 3142 first again.

Freeza with an I1 votes

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It's not free damage from next auto tho, they only get the passive if they strike from being unseen, which is how they should be played.

And it's not even close to being extremely strong anymore, it got nerfed multiple times and many players now go item 3142 first again.

I've yet to see that, Ghostblade is better I believe but most people I see playing will rush Duskblade due to the damage it grants being extremely beneficial

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