or is it just some giant coincidence that
shaco/eve/urgot/teemo/garen/poppy
go years and years before getting changed to be balanced? Poppy took a fuckin eon to get a change
what do all those champs have in common? less than 3150 ip. Pretty sure most are 1350 bracket
Requiemsfire2 votesMaybe because it doesn't directly impact gameplay?
A Basic Island1 votesdon't pretend like 6300 ip champs don't receive immediate attention while other champs are left to rot for years till their player base bitches enough
Requiemsfire1 votesCare to give proper examples than simply list champions who've had fundamental problems with their kits that can't be solved through simple number tweaking?
A Basic Island1 votesi gotta ask, were you around when eve had her stun when she exited stealth? Shortly after that was nerfed, eve was trash tier until she got her then new passive which made it so she could walk by wards freely.
what is fundamentally wrong with teemo and urgot and shaco?
Does having a broken kit matter? Shouldn't the older champs take priority since, well... they're older? Obviously rito works on a last in first out type of basis since that's where the value lies
Requiemsfire1 votesIf that's true then why haven't 
and 
recieved proper changes while 
received their own reworks.
Let me ask you this question, a lot of people and even Riot acknowledges teemo requires his own rework, however, how do you make Teemo's kit healthy to the game while keeping the aspects of what people love most about teemo intact?
A Basic Island1 votesthose champs were changed mainly due to the larger class reworks. Are zed and talon already 3150> ip? thought they were 6300 still or at the very least 4800.
Ryzes kit was fundamentally broken, and no matter what they did people played him, causing a huge disturbance in games. they had to do what was necessary to change it
my PERSONAL opinion on "toxic" but weak champs like teemo? Buff them to viability and let it be, learn from mistakes. If they even cared at all about champs being toxic kalista wouldn't have ever happened. I probably feel this way cus i just feel so many champs are annoying/infuriating to deal with, so why target specific ones? Vlad for example is incredibly frustrating to deal with even if you're winning
As for why azir and kalista haven't been changed yet, they're working on them. They're trying to make them viable since they're still 6300.
Requiemsfire1 votesDoes having a broken kit matter? Shouldn't the older champs take priority since, well... they're older? Obviously rito works on a last in first out type of basis since that's where the value lies Ryze's kit was fundamentally broken, and no matter what they did people played him, causing a huge disturbance in games. they had to do what was necessary to change it
my PERSONAL opinion on "toxic" but weak champs like teemo? Buff them to viability and let it be, learn from mistakes.
Your words, not mine. Try not to talk in circles and contradict yourself.
A Basic Island1 votesI'm not? Where did i contradict myself?
Requiemsfire1 votesDoes having a broken kit matter? Shouldn't the older champs take priority since, well... they're older? Obviously rito works on a last in first out type of basis since that's where the value lies
Ryze's kit was fundamentally broken, and no matter what they did people played him, causing a huge disturbance in games. they had to do what was necessary to change it
my PERSONAL opinion on "toxic" but weak champs like teemo? Buff them to viability and let it be, learn from mistakes.
A Basic Island1 voteshow is that a contradiction?
pros played ryze even tho they tried to nerf him into unviability
pros forced ritos hand
if he wasn't receiving play he wouldn't have been changed?
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesThey're trying to make them viable since they're still 6300.
Their reason on the works of Azir & Kalista was NOWHERE near something about a goddamn 6300 IP.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votes
gets a rework before 
.
Your point?
Martensitic2 votes 
They are all 6300 IP. They are all a complete waste of space right now.
And that list isn't even complete.
Wanna talk more about how high IP pricing protects from being garbage?
ned the kled1 voteshow dare you talk about my champ like that HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT KLED LIKE THAT, YOU TRAITOOOOOOOOOOOOR GET OUT OF MY GAME BEFORE I DRIVE MY CAR AND RUN OVER YOU AND RUN OVER YOU AGAIN SO I MAKE SURE I DID MY JOB AND I WILL LET F*CKING SKAARL EAT YOUR DEAD GODDAMN BODY BECAUSE YOU ARE A DELICIOUS WASTE OF SPACE RIGHT NOW.
sorry, got triggered by you saying my 1 trick champ is a garbage champ and a waste of space.
Martensitic1 votesIts okay, I understand.
Well, gotta go, I have lots of helpless Kleds to smash on toplane :D
ned the kled1 votesHOW DARE YOU. I WILL MURDER YOU UNTIL DEAD SO YOU DIE, oh
don't hit the door on your WAY TO HELL!
SNAFFLE CRACKLE POOPY CRAP PJLKSADIUOJLKRAFDS
Martensitic1 votesHey, since you are a Kled player, maybe you can help me out with this...
...can I make that reptiles skin into good shoes, or would it better wear as a pair of gloves?
ned the kled1 votesneither of those work, it looks actually good as a purse ay.
AcidTheWarlock1 votesKled and Lissandra are good rn though
Martensitic1 votesExcuse me, are you from the past?
TequilaZombie1 votesOr maybe it's because the champions are not that problematic or easy to rework.
Poppy was a mess and Riot was trying to figure out what to do with her. She was not an easy champion to rework and for a long time they were trying to keep her identity. It was pretty recently that they decided to actually make big impacts to champion's identities to improve their healthyness.
Garen suffers from being a straight foward champion with no room to outplay his enemies. Being extremely simple and reliable turns him into the typical Bronze Destroyer. That said, I doubt he is problematic enough to deserve a full VGU anytime soon.
Teemo suffers from a lesser case of the Aatrox syndrome. Stupidly strong when in a decent state, instant 4v5 when not. But it's not as bad. Right now he's a decent split push champion along with Trynd, Aatrox, AD Shaco and a few others. Apart from that, his entire kit is too iconic to change much.
Urgot is actually a strong champion. He doesn't have a clear cut design as other League champions do, and that's mostly his only problem. He's a single target bruiser that is pretty damn strong and has tons of 1v1 and skirmish potential, obviously falling behind in team fights due to his single target nature. In other words: his only problem is that he lacks a definite design. Aka Galio Lite.
Evelynn has always been a bit problematic, but she's a fine champion. She can go full AD or AP Assassin, she can go full Melee Carry, she can go Bruiser, she can build Tank, she can even go on hit. I truly believe this game needs more vesatile champions and Eve is a prime example. She just suffers from the classical jack of all trades, master of none problem.
Shaco is fine, just needs some fine tunning. In my opinion he's the only assassin who has to trick you into dying rather than just GETREKTNOOB100-0SKILLZ you in the face. Well, at least in the early game. To truly get ahead, a Shaco needs to take advantage of enemy jungle paths, make clever use of his boxes and think of unkown cheese strategies. Although I would argue that he should NOT be able to split push nor he should be a strong duelist and that his ult could use some hefty changes. PS: Shaco main, so I'm biased as fuck.
However, there are 2 main problems in your post:
You ignore who is next for reworks: Warwick and Galio. Two champions in dire need of a rework. Putting anyone that you mentioned ahead of them is not that great of an idea.
The last reworks changed about as many cheap champions as expensive ones. Take a look at the list:
Yorik (4800) Ryze (450) Taric (1350) Shen (3150) Poppy (450) Fiora (4800) Gangplank (3150) Miss Fortune (3150) Ryze (450) Zilean (1350) Tristana (1350)
Those were all the VGU or GU we had. Obviously not taking into consideration the pure visual ones. Only 2 of those champions were above average in price. The average of the IP price of the reworked champions is 2222 IP.
Now, if you were reffering to Rooster Updates I'm gonna agree with you, most of the big changes were made to highly priced champions. But that's mostly because they were either suffering, dominating too hard or overlapping too much. So it's understandable.
Hrbrt1 votes
ZephyrDrake1 votesIP does not matter when it comes to balancing. Simple as that. Eve is not doing horrible and i see her way more often than 60% of the other champions and Poppy is still a monster when it comes to late game teamfights.
Sorry to break your bubble but there are a ton of 6300 IP champions that are absolute hot garbage and have been for a LONG time so that immediately breaks your argument
Astôlfo1 voteswhat even is this joke thread
AcidTheWarlock1 votesAshe is literally the most consistent ADC in the game and she's 450 IP.
Ryze has always been good and he's 450 IP.
Sona Ping1 votesWant to know another champion who got multiple changes recently for balance?
