how the hell are you supposed to fight zed?

AR URF·Jan 4, 2019·2 votes·1,847 views

ult, electrocute, ignite AND his abilities?

What I mean by his ult is it pops, which is like a second electrocute.

Edit: Thanks for the answers guys. I read every one.

18 Comments

Projectile VomitJan 4, 20195 votes

Armor -> item 3157 + CC

AR URFJan 4, 20193 votes

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Armor -> + CC

It's a good item, but you're leaving yourself in the dust if you play a mana heavy champion.

MoonscourgeJan 4, 20192 votes

That's why Stopwatch exists. Don't waste it right away if you get it though. Buy Armor and Tome, then finish Chapter -> Armguard on next back.

AR URFJan 4, 20191 votes

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That's why Stopwatch exists. Don't waste it right away if you get it though. Buy Armor and Tome, then finish Chapter -> Armguard on next back.

I can respect this answer. A serious no troll reply. gl on your games.

MrHaZeYoJan 4, 20191 votes

My reply wasn't a troll reply :(.

Projectile VomitJan 4, 20192 votes

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It's a good item, but you're leaving yourself in the dust if you play a mana heavy champion.

Then don't pick a mana heavy champion into Zed

If you got counterpicked, congratulations! Now adapt to the matchup and build what is needed to survive.

MrHaZeYoJan 4, 20191 votes

Mana Flow band from Sorc tree and use Stop watch and biscuits from support tree to help your mana sustain early. The stop watch rune will give your Zhonya's a 15% reduced CD.

ΗuaweiJan 5, 20191 votes

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Armor -> + CC

Get a Janna to shield you, Lulu Zilean to ult you etc Get summoner 21

MrHaZeYoJan 4, 20191 votes

I actually think the Zed vs Neeko match up is pretty skill dependent. If you're good at predicting and dodging his pre-6 is easy to get through, and if you can get ult at the same time as him it then becomes a who ults who 1st. Zed needs to go Aggro because he depends on the snowball more then Neeko, who in the match up is alright going even. I rushed Zhonyas in my match up and brought exhaust, I learned I could prep her ult and zhonyas and my ult would still go off. Although I feel if you can suppress Zed during the pre-6 you could prolly still go Ludans with a Stop Watch into seekers or Lost Chapter into Seekers/stop watch.

I'm not great with neeko yet but I'm still out of practice (3 months away from League), from what I've learned from playing her a bit and the 1 match up I had as her vs Zed, it's really not a hard match up.

MoonscourgeJan 4, 20191 votes

Flash after he ulted you if he ignites. If he ults normally, try to juke his double or triple Q by walking towards the side of the lane, not your tower, works most of the time. Buy a cloth armor early on. Try to attack him after he used W in lane etc.

Cats Are FoodJan 4, 20191 votes

Run barrier. Most obnoxious thing ever is to have someone pop barrier and flash away as soon as my ult lands on them.

King LegoJan 4, 20191 votes

Hmm...let's see. If you have cc save it for an escape or when a zed has no means to escape (like w or flash) and also if he ulti you because zed always appears behind you after his triple shadow thing during his R. Just time it so you can disrupt his full combo and also if you have any form of mobility (other than flash) use it after his R untargetability goes away so he would miss most of his Q and e.

Stopwatch/Zhonya are a good idea, as well as building HP and Armor (only one of those 2 are more or less pointless).

Barrier is also a good idea to use. Especially when be uses his R.

Ćount KledulaJan 4, 20191 votes

you don't [sg-ezreal]

NetorareJan 4, 20191 votes

Rush item 3157 or die but it doesn't really matter lethality>defensive mage items. Lethality is just a bad stat in general.

Super GalaxyJan 4, 20191 votes

The counterplay is in your kit. Matchups with shields can easily prevent his WQ lane poke, and hard crowd control like stuns or silences can be useful on his R because he will always appear behind your character on the other side of his R shadow (cast location), so you'd always be between the R shadow and where he re-appears.

If your pick doesn't have any form of healing or shielding, it's best to just get the Perfect Timing rune and buy item 3191 fairly soon; I'd recommend that on any pick versus someone like Zed or Talon though.

Best of luck, he's one of my personally most despised matchups.

JeaneGreeneJan 4, 20191 votes

Get stopwatch and run barrier. Armor loses a ton of value as the game goes on, so I wouldn’t recommend buying Zhonya unless you want to use the active multiple times per game. When Zed ults you, he appears behind you, so aim your CC and stun him under your turret. Also, Zed is weak after he uses his shadow, especially if he uses it for waveclear/poke, so look to trade with him after he burns it.

Stray KatJan 4, 20191 votes

I actually had fun as Sivir against him yesterday. He tried to ult me 6 times, I used my E to block it 6 times.

I still played horribly, since I'm a terrible ADC, but it was fun nullifying the Zed ults. I'd imagine Nocturne could do the same thing with his spell shield.

MrFawknSunshineJan 5, 20191 votes

well heres an idea just gonna put it out there .

if you go domination either primary or secondary and you are going to rush/build item 3157

i advise taking ingenious hunter. it gives 15% cdr on item actives and it scales per bounty. which would mean you can have a lower CD on item 3157 active and have it up more often. its 15% cd on active item + 5% per bounty if you get all 5 you will have 40% cd on the active of which alone has a 120 sec cd

120-15%(18sec) for a 102 sec cd and if you get all 5 bounties +25% cdr for 40% total which would be 48 secs off so the cdr of the active would be 72seconds

zeds ult has a COOLDOWN: 120 / 90 / 60 so basically you can have it up nearly as often as he has his ult up and if you run summoner 21 it has a 180 sec cdr

and if you can or need item 3158 that will give you 10% cdr on summoners too.