Why did Azir get nerfed because new players had a 50% W/R when Singed has been at 54% forever?

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Singed is supposed to be one of the hardest champions in the game hands down. Why does Riot thinks it's unacceptable for another high skill cap champion like Azir to have a decent W/R with newer players but it's ok for Singed? If newer players on Singed are averaging a 50% W/R or better on average doesn't that signal that something is also overtuned with Singed as well?

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Wráthful2 votes

u cant just compare singed to azir ...

Wráthful1 votes

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u cant just compare singed to azir ...

They are soo different it's actually insane bur as i stated before the biggest difference is how little it takes for azir to be op or straight up trash.

E GIRL SNIPER1 votes

True singed is braindead and far more overpowered.

Kythers1 votes

Balancing is not done only with new players in mind

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Balancing is not done only with new players in mind

Maybe you should tell that to the balancing team since they specifically used that Rationale to nerf azir again.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You're kidding, right?

Singed is supposed to be a high skillcap champion in the same League as Azir? [sg-miss-fortune]

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[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfThAxIN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-03T07:48:29.781+0000)

You're kidding, right?

Singed is supposed to be a high skillcap champion in the same League as Azir? [sg-miss-fortune]

I would bet every dollar in my bank account that you've never played Azir or Singed with how ignorant your statement actually is.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I've played them a bit (mostly just bot games with friends), but I don't like their playstyle.

But please, enlighten me. How is a champion who's most advanced strategy involves going between towers and getting people to chase him anywhere close to high skill cap? You are aware that macro game knowledge isn't a champion skill, correct?

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[{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfThAxIN,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-03T08:06:21.214+0000)

I've played them a bit (mostly just bot games with friends), but I don't like their playstyle.

But please, enlighten me. How is a champion who's most advanced strategy involves going between towers and getting people to chase him anywhere close to high skill cap? You are aware that macro game knowledge isn't a champion skill, correct?

Proxy farming is just 1 style of playing Singed. As you can imagine not everyone will proxy farm because it's not always ideal.

Singed right now is a lot easier since they changed his passive. Old Singed on the other hand had a ton of bad lane match ups and didn't have grounding etc... it was very very hard to do consistently well as Singed because of how bad his laning actually was.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You gave zero explanation, and even say how Singed isn't hard.

Wráthful1 votes

riot have stated multiple times that Azir's balance is very hard thing to be done either he's shit or insanely busted. they pref to keep him a little back because of how op he can get with just 1 buff in the wrong direction

Ohmereb1 votes

How can you compare Azir's Kit to that of singed? Azir's kit over all is one hell of a kit in the correct hands. While Singed can split push for days on end he doesnt have an engage and is over all not that big of a teamfighter. Azir can engage and win teamfights with his high damage in the mid to late game. Thats probably why they nerfed Azir his kit is just too good.

E GIRL SNIPER1 votes

Singed no engage? Literally no champ but ramus can escape him.

Ahris1 votes

Azir was pretty broken and he got an EXTRMEELY tiny nerf. Just 20 damage off his Q and 5 from w. Which is barely nothing.

Hayaishi21 votes

i dont even think he was that good. He is easy to punish with his short range now and his damage doesn't justify it.

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