Vayne buffs on pbe?

Tacosrock·Aug 9, 2016·15 votes·2,371 views

ok did riot not understand the last time they tried to buff her that we, the community, do not want or need that? Seriously, she's fine. She's super good late game and takes time to get started early. Ridiculous

24 Comments

RexSaurAug 9, 201618 votes

This bronze forum still thinks that vayne is super good and needs to be nerfed and not buffed lol.

Shes a bit weak, some buffs are fine.

GetcuxcdAug 9, 20162 votes

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This bronze forum still thinks that vayne is super good and needs to be nerfed and not buffed lol.

Shes weak, some buffs are fine.

THE IRONY IS THAT the bronze mentality is wanting more buffs .. buff your brains maybe plz .. you think X champ needs buffs because u suck ur not good enough have u tought about that yall just want to turn league into call of duty when everyone is op as sht 1 click kill with ur unnecesary buffs

Wiz the GreatAug 9, 20162 votes

You're silver 2

MarshbouyAug 9, 20163 votes

So true. She's got like a 47% win rate and can't really compete with the popular and better ADCs.

MiudmonAug 9, 20161 votes

It's not that shes strong, at least to me. I just hate playing against her. Especially lategame.

TacosrockAug 10, 20161 votes

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This bronze forum still thinks that vayne is super good and needs to be nerfed and not buffed lol.

Shes a bit weak, some buffs are fine.

um ok I'm not bronze but I still think she is strong in the right hands. Besides, I don't want her to be meta lol. She doesn't deserve it with her kit.

ProfDrDeathAug 9, 201615 votes

Vayne got a bugfix last patch that worked out to be a major nerf to her, as evident in her performance. Note that her playrate did not change, so the decrease in performance has nothing to do with increased popularity.

Also, while it seems like a big increase, it is actually nothing major. Vayne has the second-lowest base AD of all ADCs (84, only beaten by MF's 63), meaning that is is at most 17 damage more from base AD. Since Vayne does not build major AD early in her current form, the impact of this buff should merely serve to rebuff her to the pre-6.15 level.

MarshbouyAug 9, 20164 votes

Thank you for actually paying attention

YSeT9iEzJKAug 9, 20164 votes

because riot are fucking clown shoe wearing goofs dont have a clue wtf theyre doing...

buffing champs that dont need buffed and forgetting about champs that need looked at....

theyre fucking ruining this game day by day bunch of clowns

MizayaAug 9, 20164 votes

What buffs? I don't even think any minor buffs will get her to a decent position among the adc pool. Not with the meta being like it is right now. Don't know why everyone's freaking out, weak champions get buffed all the time. Oh wait, everyone is biased against Vayne, forgot.

Gosh DarnAug 9, 20164 votes

She's consistently underperforming across all elos with her winrate being lower than 50% even at 125+ games played. Regardless of if her kit is toxic or unfun to play with/against, she needs buffs. If you want her kit to be reworked that's one thing, but to just blatantly lie and say Vayne is anywhere near viable right now is selfish.

Sorry you don't like her, I don't either, but I'm not deluding myself into thinking she doesn't need a buff, especially when her upcoming buff is extremely small.

GULAG 4 UAug 9, 20162 votes

So vayne can get massive buffs (+20% AD SCALING AT LEVEL 9) but aatrox can be left in the shithole? Woot rito!

Gosh DarnAug 9, 20163 votes

Massive? Her tumble is already contradictory with the high AS that every Vayne build is composed of. I doubt this will move her winrate at all. By the time the higher ratio kicks in, she's got so much AS that she doesn't tumble except to reposition.

GULAG 4 UAug 9, 20161 votes

+20% ad scaling isn't massive? Her tumble is great for kiting AND is an auto reset. It's not something you can't/don't want to use.

Masala ChaiAug 9, 20164 votes

Tumble is only a true auto reset if you tumble against a wall. At a certain point, tumble is best used to avoid skills hits because it lowers your overall DPS.

ÂFRÏCÂN GØDAug 9, 20162 votes

Speak for yourself. I play enough Vayne to know shes in a bad spot compared to other adcs and the meta that is around right now. All I hear is people complaining about playing against her so she doesnt need buffs. There are tons of champs whose late game is hard to play against. I would consider the opinion of someone who plays the champ no matter the stats of said champ at any given time vs. people complaining about playing against her. Its very up and down with her in some elo's. Some games I get fed as hell and some games I'm focused right by the bot lane or the team in team fights. That goes either way but she definitely fails in comparison as far as some adcs early game damage and usual and her range at times is shit and can be the deciding factor in is it even worth going in at all as I'll end up blown up in 3 seconds lol all they do now is ward my ult q anyways so some games I can barely use that efficiently. All games don't make it to late game especially with these death timers and depending on how objectives are taken or if the team comp is just really good at cc, focusing, rotating, etc. She just feels really weak right now imo and thats not meaning she needs to go back to pick or ban in every game. All I know is I used to pick Vayne a lot more than I did and now it just seems like if I really wanna win I have to go with these newer adcs or adcs who got buffs early s6. These anti buff vayne posts just sound like ppl being triggered by the fear of what she used to be and taking the seldom experiences that you do see her now, which is rarely and saying "I couldnt do shit against her late game and now they are buffing her"... Plenty of Vayne mains have stopped playing her a lot as its too risky depending on the meta and the team comp that is set up in champ select. If you wanna beat a Vayne just pick Draven and a good engage support Lol. I can't promise you what happens late game tho xP. Don't let me catch u out alone Draaaaaaaaven.

NotCounterAug 9, 20161 votes

So without changing anything else in her kit, they decided to make her Tumble-empowered autos have scaling almost on par with Draven axes?

I don't understand this change.

MetalrichdogAug 9, 20161 votes

To be honest, there is very little reason for me to pick Vayne right now unless I know I can scale up safely. This new first tower blood just put hers in a worse position than before since she'll almost never get the first tower, which means that if the enemy bot gets it, they're just going to hit their power spike faster and sooner than Vayne can get any items.

CasterGilgameshAug 9, 20161 votes

vayne is getting buffs when more adcs are getting nerfs she will probs go back to being meta at this rate IMO

redfeenixAug 9, 20161 votes

WOOO time to whip out the caitlyn

FriusAug 9, 20161 votes

vayne needs W toned down not buffs its ultimate cancer 12% max hp no cd ,just spam attacjk speed

Masala ChaiAug 9, 20161 votes

The crit tumble reroll change actually hurt her late game hard, I'm on mobile; but I know that the only point mathematically in which the new tumble out damages the old one on average is past 65% crit. (Punnet Squares OP).

atomicwitAug 9, 20161 votes

Vayne will likely still be shit due to her laning phase and zero AoE in teamfights. She's only good in tank metas.

ChíckenDaddyAug 10, 20161 votes

I could say she has a low winrate and be right, I could say she is a skill based champ and be right, but maybe not. but what I do know is every time I fight a vayne I happy because she's easy to deal with, and whenever I have one on my team the only adc I would rather have vayne over is urgot, and I see alot of vaynes in the bronz/silver players I'm fighting.