Unpopular opinion...Jax is a worse design than Yasuo

Cloud273·Dec 21, 2018·1 votes·1,349 views

You can cry about Yasuo's damage all you want, but the fact is his main source of damage (his 'q') can be dodged extremely easily. Dodging the 'q' also means no cc for him. Can't say the same for Jax, who just starts his counter strike, jumps on top of you and autos you to death. All Jax has to do is time his counter strike properly and he wins every trade (or outright kills you). There is ZERO counterplay to this champ. And you can't itemize against him cuz mixed damage.

16 Comments

dunder killDec 21, 20187 votes

you sound like the type of dude who walks up to a Jax with conqueror and his passive fully stacked then wonder why you got bodied lul

Cats Are FoodDec 21, 20182 votes

Jax has ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME. The only thing to ever change was his Dodge passive was stuck on his E.

Yasuo

Ignores at least one attack against him, no matter how powerful.
Can effectively cut your team in half, for the entire duration of his windwall since it is an IMMORTAL PIECE OF CRAP
Dashes around the board like an ice skater

Actually, yeah, his windwall is my only problem with him, Jax is just Jax.

ßurstDec 21, 20181 votes

No, Jax is really strong rn all due to conq and ER he would arguably still be super strong even without ER

Cloud273Dec 21, 20181 votes

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Jax has ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME. The only thing to ever change was his Dodge passive was stuck on his E.

Yasuo

Ignores at least one attack against him, no matter how powerful.

Can effectively cut your team in half, for the entire duration of his windwall since it is an IMMORTAL PIECE OF CRAP

Dashes around the board like an ice skater

Actually, yeah, his windwall is my only problem with him, Jax is just Jax.

What's your point? Just because he's "always been the same" doesn't somehow make him healthy. You literally just walk away from Yasuo when he windwalls. You can also just walk right through it and kill him. TONS of counterplay. Jax has been bullsht ever since his release. Don't try to tell me Jax has counterplay cuz that's straight up bullsht. Yasuo has way more counterplay than Jax will ever have.

Cats Are FoodDec 21, 20181 votes

Jax was released in beta. No, he hasnt.

Never said Yasuo was problematic. Just obnoxious.

Cloud273Dec 21, 20181 votes

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Jax was released in beta. No, he hasnt.

Again what's your point? Obviously he's gotten some small changes over the years but he's more or less the same cancer champ.

Cats Are FoodDec 21, 20181 votes

My point is that he was considered all but useless for years. Changes to other gameplay aspects that make him a powerhouse once more doesn't change that.

Being as HE never really changed, something ELSE is the problem.

Cloud273Dec 21, 20181 votes

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My point is that he was considered all but useless for years. Changes to other gameplay aspects that make him a powerhouse once more doesn't change that.

Being as HE never really changed, something ELSE is the problem.

Jax has never been considered useless lol. Stop spewing these lies.

Cats Are FoodDec 21, 20181 votes

Hmm.

dunder killDec 21, 20182 votes

Sure if you ignore all those years where Jax was considered a trash champion then yeah. Before item 3053 item 3748 he was a shit champion for a long time lul

but sure, JAX ZERO COUNTERPLAY QQ

Cloud273Dec 21, 20181 votes

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Sure if you ignore all those years where Jax was considered a trash champion then yeah. Before he was a shit champion for a long time lul

but sure, JAX ZERO COUNTERPLAY QQ

This is just not true. Anyone who's ever said Jax is weak has no idea what they're talking about. He's literally the most braindead top laner ever invented (along with Tryndamere).

dunder killDec 21, 20181 votes

It is true. Sounds to me like you're just trash at laning against Jax but instead of trying to get better you instead convinced yourself of some stupid bullshit about Jax having no counterplay. Then you actually are going to sit here with a straight face and try to tell people that Jax has always been overpowered and actually expect people to believe you kek

Anyway, have fun continuing to be a dogshit player against Jax

Cloud273Dec 21, 20181 votes

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It is true. Sounds to me like you're just trash at laning against Jax but instead of trying to get better you instead convinced yourself of some stupid bullshit about Jax having no counterplay. Then you actually are going to sit here with a straight face and try to tell people that Jax has always been overpowered and actually expect people to believe you kek

Anyway, have fun continuing to be a dogshit player against Jax

If it's bullsht then tell me why I'm wrong. I actually gave reason's for why Jax is bullsht and your counterargument is "you're just trash" (which is an insult btw and not even a counterargument at all). Also you're only level 34 and you haven't even played Jax even once. I've been playing this game since season 2 so I think I know what I'm talking about. Why don't you actually put some thought into your next post then maybe I'll take you seriously.

xDogMeatxDec 21, 20181 votes

hold on your saying jax has absolute 0 counterplay? no ifs ands or buts about it? well heres some news jaxs e has one weakness abilities can pierce it single target abilities go right though the 25% aoe reduction. in a raid boss battle he is one of those guys who is meant to take/give a beating while infusing himself with more might to live longer while his team actually wipes the floor with you hes mainly single target oriented. its annoying as jax when a enemy constantly pokes you to oblivion you. it feels like the cowards way out to poke someone to death or "get brave" when a jungler comes in. (personal opinion on the poking and ganking part) thats his weakness or use anti ground cc that controls the land like Cassiopeia w or Anivia walls Morgana whole kit of cc basically hard core controller mages really make jaxs somewhat irritated due to being stuck in one place WE JAXS LIKE TO MOVE AROUND AND DO DAMAGE NOT SIT HERE WHILE GETTING PUMMELLED.

Dorans PantsDec 21, 20181 votes

idk even when he is op, he seems still easier to manage than yas, but I guess this has more to do with how his mobility is more telegraphed, compared to yas who, when played well, can jump around the whole team fight. Regardless, I have to admit that I rarely lane against him and usually face him in tfs so maybe that skews my assessment of him.

I just like it when the game is not a twitch shooter.