This might be late, but why the frag is riot nerfing thornmail as a concept SO hard?

Paroe··1 votes·497 views

It really needs a base damage and an actual reflect, especially since armor has been lowered across the board. 15% of 200 is less than 30 after all, and 30 is outhealed by just about everything.

At least make it 10-30 base damage+20% of incoming damage before mitigation....

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Chaos6891 votes

Because the concept of thornmail is bad and unhealthy.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

It's made to negate healing, so your tanks aren't there just to give hp to the enemy Caitlyn...

Paroe1 votes

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It's made to negate healing, so your tanks aren't there just to give hp to the enemy Caitlyn...

If thats the case, Why not just make "thorns" a greivous wounds? Or make it a specific counter to lifesteal? Why nerf the effect of the item to the point where it cant even be called a real item anymore?

Ralanr1 votes

Because it saves inventory space by making it a component item?

1374341 votes

I don't care that the reflected damage is low, I just wish it reflected back as true damage so the damage isn't mitigated by the champion's MR (especially as Riot is now giving scaling MR to everyone) considering most thornmail users are not buying magic pen.

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