Here is the issue with ADCs and why i cant believe riot doesn't see it.

lolipopevelynn··3 votes·481 views

its simple, there build set ups give them far too many stats. lets look at a standard ADC build

item 3006 item 3085 item 3031 item 3087 item 3153 item 3036

This build gives ADC EVERY stat in the damn game except AP. Move speed, crit, AD, life steal, armor pen, wave clear, range poke, %HP shred, Move speed reduction... and these are from items ALONE. add runes to that and they get even more stats. ON TOP OF THIS, all of these items are cheap to build compared to other class items. this is the definition of "overloaded".

now lets look at a standard AP build. item 3285 item 3020 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3157 This build path gives AP, CDR, Magic pen, and armor, and a little wave clear that isnt nearly as potent as shiv. and all of these items are very expensive. all being 3k or higher except void and boots.

but lets not stop there. now lets look at a bruisers/fighters build path.item 3047 item 3078 item 3074 item 3053item 3026 item 3143 This gives armor, AD, HP, attack speed, CDR, movespeed, life steal, mana, and a shield. All of these stats, with the exception of HP and armor, is not even half of what an ADC gets. the majority of it is coming from triforce.

SO why is no one reevaluating what an ADC gets compared to other roles?

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undesirable team3 votes

armor magic resist on adcs lul

This build gives ADC EVERY stat in the damn game except AP.

420 grams2 votes

A lot of ad's actually skip berserkers for ninja tabi. They also don't always buy 3 crit items and instead will get guardian angel.

Geauxx2 votes

You're about to fight a pointless battle.

Stop while you still can

Enderspider1 votes

its hard to win a discussion with a smart person its impossible to win a discussion with a stupid person

undesirable team2 votes

i'm just saying there's a flaw with his argument.
adcs dont get: armor magic resist magic pen lethality (range poke ...) hp damage reduction ?????????????????????????????????????????????? the thing that seperates how they do dmg is how reliable it is and from the range mages tend to have longer range and higher burst damage adcs tend to be more squishy and have a little less range the real thing that's a problem is support items imo item 3504 free stats item 3109 free stats item 3050 free stats item 3222 free stats + qss item 3190 bullshit shield item 3107 bullshit aoe heal all of this ontop of ingenious hunter which gives a shitton of item cdr reduction this makes the adc basically invincible because with all of these stats on top of a Janna shield and peel gives literally nothing the enemies can do

420 grams1 votes

Adcs can get that though. Their build is so versatile that it doesn't have to only be the build OP posted. They often do get armor from GA. They can get merc skimitar for MR. ATTACK DAMAGE carries don't need magic pen. ADCs sometimes can go lethality effectively (MF, Jhin, and Draven especially). Rapidfire cannon is heavy range poke on top of what their kits already give. You're right, no hp. Phantom dancer gives huge damage reduction.

Draehl1 votes

It's a vicious cycle. Support items, heals, shields, etc. all have been buffed over time because damage from nearly every source in the game has crept up over time. I'd be glad to see support stuff nerfed alongside damaging abilities/items/runes(in general, not ADC specifically). The game as a whole would be in a healthier place if being at full health meant something again.

Poske2 votes

Yes lets act like carries dont build this 3 items item 3139 item 3026 item 3156

And there are odballs like ezreal kog who can get item 3022

Trinity gives HP

Double doran blade is actually great thing unlike double doran ring

Not to mention that skipping sorceress is massive trade of while skipping berserkers for tabi or something else isnt

Marshbouy3 votes

This build gives ADC EVERY stat in the damn game except AP.

except for health, armor, and magic resistance.

I believe that ADC buildpaths are definitely too cheap, but this post just kind of sucks because it's a lot of assumptions with no real evidence behind it.

also, that buiser build path sucks ass lmao.

AirKingNeo1 votes

who the fuck goes hurricane bork?

lolipopevelynn1 votes

{quoted}

who the fuck goes hurricane bork?

Twitch KogMaw

AirKingNeo1 votes

kog building crit though???

Winterwings2 votes

Hurricane Botrk Shiv to be exact...

L M A O

seems like the op just made up some nonsense build to try and force his "point"

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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Hurricane Botrk Shiv to be exact...

L M A O

seems like the op just made up some nonsense build to try and force his "point"

So you are telling me you DONT build hurricane and botrk on kog or twitch?

Slythion1 votes

False

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