Riot why haven't you made it so knockups don't get affected by tenacity?

JoroA·Sep 7, 2016·2 votes·391 views

I feel as though all forms of cc need to be reduced with tenacity, witch includes knock ups, knock backs and even 's last breath. It is an unfair advantage if a team is filled with knock ups. Junglers such as and might not be as dominant if their abilities have some sort of counter.

It also is common sense! With tenacity you are able to hold your ground and not get thrown around left and right in terms of real life logic.

If can get rid of the cc portion of the abilities such as Last breath or other forms of knock ups/knock backs than so could help by reducing their duration no?

6 Comments

Zero Skill TankSep 7, 20162 votes

QSS removes CC portion of Last Breath, because it's not a knockup.

JoroASep 7, 20161 votes

It is still a mid air suspension, plus if you use QSS during for example a lee knock up you can still move and break free from it and cancel it's effects.

RalanrSep 7, 20161 votes

That's cause Lee's ult is both a knock back and a stun.

His ult is really weird.

OleandervineSep 7, 20162 votes

Tenacity by its nature cannot affect knock-ups. Tenacity reduces the duration of crowd controls by a percentage; knock up doesn't have a duration like a root, it simply pops you airborne and that's that. Last Breath is weird in that it essentially creates a sort of airborne stun while you are knocked up, and this extended aerial duration is probably not classified as a typical knock up and more classified as a stun in terms of game programming, which is probably why it is affected by QSS. This is all conjecture since I didn't actually program the game, so take that how you will.

RalanrSep 7, 20162 votes

I think this would be a bad idea overall. As with %heath true damage, there are things that you just are not supposed to counterbuild.

Plus if you make it so tenacity reduces knock up duration, you'd have to rebalance and give compensation buffs to maybe every champion that relies on knock ups, not to mention how weak it would turn abilities that are low level displacements (like Maokai's Q).