How about a counterplay based nerf for evelynn?

The thigh guy··1 votes·537 views

Leave everything the same on her kit, except make the cast of her allure break her stealth. That'll make it just a hair easier for the person dealing with her, while still keeping her cc ( that she shouldn't have -.-) and her damage intact.

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Azadethe1 votes

Omfg no. That's just as bad as a damage nerf. The only reason she's even been viable recently is because she started building Frostfang, and now they're nerfing that hard too.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Omfg no. That's just as bad as a damage nerf. The only reason she's even been viable recently is because she started building Frostfang, and now they're nerfing that hard too.

So giving counterplay is just as good as gutting her? if that's the case she isn't a healthy champion at all and her rework was a failure.

Azadethe1 votes

She already has counterplay. It's called 1) Pink Wards. 2) Placement 3) Warding camps rather than bushes. 4) CC (Literally any CC Champ makes Eve's life a living hell).

The thigh guy1 votes

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She already has counterplay. It's called 1) Pink Wards. 2) Placement 3) Warding camps rather than bushes. 4) CC (Literally any CC Champ makes Eve's life a living hell).

Okay, so I'm going to throw a brick at you, but you are going to be blindfolded. But you should still be able to dodge said brick because you know it's coming.

As for cc champs crushing her, are you kidding? Maybe 1v1. But she is the jungler, meaning 9/10 it's a 2v1. And if you manage to cc her in time (you won't) you are still charmed because the range of her q is longer than the sweeping lenses range around you.

Screw it, let's get rid of all counterplay and give Annie permastealth

Azadethe1 votes

Let me put it this way.

When Eve picks jungle before me, I go Leona . I Absolutely stomp her into a 1/10 game. She can't kill Leona.

If I was a better Warwick , He also stomps her. Not only can he always tell where she is, he has massive move speed, and if Eve tries to engage him, He fears her and just erases her.

LeeSin Currently has a 100% success of early ambushes and shut downs of Eve, with access to Zombie wards, putting his ward count potential up to 8 at a time. He usually does it late game too, because Lee just can kill Eve before she can do anything.

Jax Although generally vulnerable to magic damage, Outtrades Eve.

Ahri Can't be caught by Eve. If she has her R, she can literally force every part of Evelynn's kit to miss.

Akali 2 Shots Eve, can use her cloud when charmed to prevent attempt to lane a charm or E. The only saving grace is, if Akali is low HP when she Smokes, You can ult her Smokescreen and nontarget kill her.

Amumu Out tanks her, out maneuvers her, outclears her. Even if she attempts to stay at a distance and Q Amumu, he can keep pulling to her.

Annie Absolutely makes Evelynn's life a living hell when played correctly. 1) Prevents her from being part of team fights. Can land stun combo before Evelynn actually hits with her Q, and just delete Evelynn.

Garen Silences Evelynn, is too tanky, huge HP, and doesn't treat long encounters kindly. Is Usually ungankable unless with a team, and if you try to W him, he will just Q away, and pop Courage.

Chogath Absolutely dominates Evelynn. Jungles better than her in every way, can counter jungle her, gets far beyond the HP Evelynn can handle, and his E rework allows him to auto attack her from within the range of his knockup.

Diana 1 Shot combos her

Elise Has Spiders to block her charm, and increased move speed, longer range leap access, and greater % damage utility.

Illaoi Usually owns her zone.

Fiora Can feint the Q, stun Eve, and RIP.

Fizz Can Playful/Trickster the Charm.

Graves Even Trade. when Graves smoke screens, Evelynn loses her engage balance and is forced to back off.

Katarina Too fast to land line of sight shots against, A good Katarina will never die to Evelynn (A bad one will stand still or get close enough to Eve for her to E the Charm.

Khazix Abolutely shuts down Eve Level 2. If Evelynn is counterjungled Kha will own her jungle the entire game, and usually 1 shot her. His effective range is 1700, given Leap + W, and his Leap alone out ranges Hate Spikes, and He's never in line of sight long enough to get a charm off.

Lux Will Q as soon as Eve Charms her. Eve won't be able to get close enough to E, and her Q isn't enough damage to land the kill. Lux proceeds to E, and ult = Evelynn RIP.

Malzahar Has absolutely no Evelynn counterplay. If you manually try to take his shield, you're in range on his full kit. The only way Evelynn ever kills a Malhazar is if he Ults a teammate of yours.

Maokai Absolutely punishes Evelynn. Might not have vision of her, but can full every bush with bombs, has extremely high heals which outtrade Evelynn. You can reach him and get your kit off, but 9 times out of 10 his damage and roots and heals will outtrade you.

Nasus 0 Gank Viability. If Evelynn goes in, she's Withered, 1 Shot Nasus = dead.

Morgana Counters Evelynn's entire kit.

Nidalee Absolutely has a 100% win rate vs Evelynn. She has 2 ways to maintain vision, a way to escape on board, 400 range advantage, and absolutely punishes champs with no built in Move speed when running in a jungle. It's super easy to calculate angles when the person you're chasing has a fixed speed, and you have pounce every 2-3 seconds to close the cap. Nidalee also has an on board heal which prevents her from ever getting low enough to Die to an Eve Ult.

Orianna Unapproachable, has Barrier to dampen kit.

Quinn Has major vision, 1 hit kit.

Rakan Unapproachable, has a better charm, on board heals, tankiness, and knockup, all of which counter Evelynn when an ADC is nearby.

Riven Absolutely destroys Evelynn when played by people who know her kit. If Evelynn catches them out, they E to soak 300 damage, go in, shut her down, and if she ults away, good rivens wall jump and have a low CDR and just chase her faster than she can walk and release R.

Sejuani Absolutely blocks Evelynn. If the other team has a Sejuani who is not afk farming jungle, you are going to lose. Her Passive prevents initiations, and her entire kit is build to block yours. If you try to play tricks to E her down, she will freeze you before you're half HP, and if you try to ult away (given you have the Tenacity to break the CC) she can follow you.....

Talon Wards your blue, kills you at level 6 in a single wall jump ult. Continues to do so the rest of the game.

Taric Can Counter ult which times perfectly vs your charm, and is an almost impossible tank to kill to boot. if he stuns, you're dead.

Twitch Invisibility when he sees a Charm, or does so halfway through your kit so you can't follow him. There is no way to kill a good twitch other than his kit being on cooldown.

Vayne 1 1/2 shots Evelynn, can Q to sidestep charm.

Sivir Shields charm, and if you aren't a tank Eve (99% arent) will kill you before you can even try subsequent skills.

Veigar Places wall on one side, hedges you'll approach from the other.

Yasuo If he has Maw or Nullifying Orb, will outlast charm and then kill you.

Colton1471 votes

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