Quick thought discussion on champs for future reworks

Forhonor321··1 votes·259 views

So even with my finals literally looming over me tomorrow as I'm writing this (which I should be studying for than typing this out, but you know....fucking procrastination) I felt like I needed to post some form of discussion since I haven't for so. I just want to go over various champs on my mind for future reworks in need and share my thoughts on them now and what I'd like to see happen to them in the future. I'm not directly making suggestions or changes as to "oh this is what I want from this champ for me to play him/her/it", I'm just sharing my opinions on their current status and what I'd like generally seen from them.

For a starting example, Garen: He's a pretty good pick when it comes to people just starting to learn the game or want a simple champion. And that's what I feel is one of his greatest strengths: being a simple champ. You don't need a lot of champs with very fancy mechanical kits like Lee or Azir, sometimes going super easy and basic can be good, especially for starting players.

However, this also leads to what many consider his biggest weakness. His kit isn't that interactive and very binary. You have a passive that's mainly used for laning and quick regen out of team fights and not to mention the villain part of it which can be unreliable sometimes, a W that I feel almost everyone forgets about, and fairly predictable playstyle: charge/silence, spin, nuke. I'd personally rather see more interaction with his kit, maybe go more along with the anti-caster/magic feel like how his new lore suggests.

Shyvana: Now while I do love this champ with all of my heart, being an extreme powerful farm jungler and split pusher, I am not going to lie and say she doesn't have problems. Yes she got a rework a while back, but honestly I have had problems with it, mostly with her passive. Before it was a stat stick, but now it's still kind of the same thing except less reliable and more feast or famine with her. Oh I do extra damage to dragons? Ok I guess, but that still doesn't make up for the fact that my bonus armor and MR now rely on me and my team getting dragons. At least before it was reliable to have but here you can either gain a bunch of bonus + dragons or none and have shitty bonuses in late game.

On top of that, she's nothing but farming and auto attacking and only has any CC from allies or items. I'd personally rather have her get properly reworked, something similar to how WW where he was still kept the same fairly well, but they added stuff to him and allowed him to gank pre 6.

Tryndamere: Ok considering it's getting very late and I really need to start panic studying I'll try to be brief. He's not fun to play against. Laning against him is a chore. Leave him alone if you stomp him in lane and he'll just push to your inhibitor cause he's always down in split-push city (where the girls are pretty). His kit also doesn't feel that great to play against. Oh I heal off of my rage but also get bonus damage that nobody really notices. W can be very clunky with determining whether you slow or not. E is a pain in the ass since it comes off CD quicker just by hitting anything and you either use it to run like a fucking pussy or catch up with low health enemies that can't escape you because you dash what feels like a mile long. RNG crit passive.

But overall I feel like his ult might be the most problematic thing about him. I mean you can't die for 4 seconds and can activate it during fucking CC (that's a lot of power when you think about it) and, once again, either use it to pick off a duel opponent or run like a little bitch. I'd honestly wouldn't mind seeing it go and being replaced by something else. Yes I'M FULLY AWARE THE ULT IS WHAT THIS GUY IS KNOWN FOR! But honestly I also feel like it's one of his more problematic things about him. Pre-6 he's pretty much a wuss. 6+, either wins duels and becomes bullshit for the rest of the game or just pansies out more and escapes from death more often now. I'm not saying that we should remove it and everyone should agree with me, I'm just saying my opinion on the matter.

So, what are some champs that you want to briefly discuss about in their future reworks, whether it's from my selection or your own? Share similar thoughts or completely different?

1 Comments

Critmaster Garen1 votes

i dont want garen to be specialized into an anti mage. especially not with how dominant ad carries were for the past couple of seasons.

and a lot of top laners that he has to face are ad bruisers.

i fear this would push him into too much of a nieche and only make him useful as a specific counter to some of the rare top lane mages and magic damage dealing tanks.

he definitely needs changs and his strategic nieche as an anti carry ironed out. but i really dont want him to be only good against (ap heavy) teamcomps that you simply dont see anymore. he would never really be relevant and worth to pick and worse off than now.

if you want an anti-mage on your team, you can just pick an assassin. those dudes come with the added benefit of countering marksmen and other squishy carries aswell.

the fact that he has a silence in his kit already makes him stronger against casters (including mages) in general.

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