Where I think Qiyana's design fails, and how it can apply to other poorly designed champions.

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I looked at Qiyana and said "What a broken piece of shit when she's released. She has high CC, stealth, mobility, damage, an execute, damn she's gonna be a permaban and be sooo broken". Boi was I wrong.

The problem is, when Riot designed Qiyana, they gave her so much in her kit (namely her CC), that they couldn't give her good numbers or she would be way too OP, which is where her problem lies. She has such a poor laning phase against anyone with range, and her late-game isn't good enough to justify it.

An example of the opposite problem is with Udyr. He's always been such a toxic champion because he has ONLY melee damage, with essentially 0 range. So Riot has to give him massive movement speed to gapclose (because he has no real gap-closer), a fairly oppressive stun if he can stay on you, and completely insane damage. So if he gets his rotations off and he gets close-range, you're done. Basically, his numbers are way too high because his kit doesn't have enough in it. Some more minor examples of this are Nasus and Tryndamere.

I would love if Riot removed a bunch of the CC from Qiyana's kit (her ult, her Q with river enchant is fine), and put the power elsewhere, making her function more like an AD assassin. The element thing is gimmick enough, but Riot making her this different is causing problems.

TL;DR: Riot needs to diversify champions' power budgets so their strengths/weaknesses in one places don't massively overcompensate for their strengths/weaknesses in another place respectively, making them an unhealthy champion.

5 Comments

Illabethe2 votes

Sorry, but she's as broken as you thought she was. You just haven't met the high elo smurfs on her yet.

Go make a new account and 70% of team games will have a Qiyana smurf completely roll your team, because they actually know which element to use when, and her ult is about 2.25 seconds of complete disable when used correctly..... on an Assassin with no Energy issues (mana)

She suffers from Yasuo Syndrome. If Riot leaves her alone, in a month she will be 50%.

preternatural1 votes

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Sorry, but she's as broken as you thought she was. You just haven't met the high elo smurfs on her yet.

Go make a new account and 70% of team games will have a Qiyana smurf completely roll your team, because they actually know which element to use when, and her ult is about 2.25 seconds of complete disable when used correctly..... on an Assassin with no Energy issues (mana)

She suffers from Yasuo Syndrome. If Riot leaves her alone, in a month she will be 50%.

yeah here i was thinking she was the next akali but she's actually the next yasuo.

La Bello1 votes

I wouldnt say Qiyana is a "failed" champ she just has a very tricky learning curve

people have yet to understand where her true strengths lie imo. (Qiyana is Talon Quinn AurelionSol Taliyah tier roamer thanks to her W passive+Yommu's and Mobi) / ( If you Q during E it doesn't miss and makes it so your Execute damage/CC is all but guaranteed)

I do agree with the no options into ranged statments though and completely lackluster lategame BUT I think thats mostly a glitch with her R where the ability isnt scaling to 17% max hp but rather stays at 10% .

I dont think Qiyana is a failure or even "unhealthy" in any sense. I think its one of those champions where you just have to hold your tongue until more people figure out how to play her and honestly I blame Riot for doing such poor jobs with explaining and outlining her playstyle. Both her champion page and Spotlight were barebones when it came to information,tips or tricks and I think her release as a WHOLE was heavily overshadowed by TFT leading to less people devoting time to optimizing a playstyle for her.

also I wouldnt compare Qiyana to the statcheck abominations that are Nasus,Udyr and Trynd lol. she does have counterplay going on thats not just "kite or lose" for starters she at least has a skillshot.

same cant be said for Tryndamere Trundle Nasus MasterYi Udyr

Lovelle1 votes

I've seen her do some pretty crazy damage, to melee and ranged champions alike.

preternatural1 votes

she's broken. stop saying she isn't it's actually ridiculous that people can say that. she's unplayable in lane once a high enough mastery is achieved, she can carry teamfights and skirmishes SOLO with her ulti. it's honestly ridiculous. forget about how stoopid Ezrealily she traverses the map with her W.

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