leona

khorney·Jul 15, 2016·2 votes·505 views

i feel like she needs a nerf in a way.... her e needs to be nerfed in a sense she is liek the only supp champ that can dive straight on you with no reason. some of you will say what about ali... he is different because he is a skill shot and he has to still combo 2 moves fast to do it right. she has a advantage over every other supp champ by a huge margin. But before any of you say well she is all or nothing champ .... any tank supp is all or nothing minus blitz who pulls them to you, even then you have to be able to grab any one while trying to do it with out hittign the cs... leo ignores all cs for her stuns. change it in some form liike increasing the range or make it a leap,, some of you will say why increase the range ...well it would really make her think twice about using it if she was that far from the adc would it not

30 Comments

Kempachi TaichouJul 15, 20163 votes

Leona's E is also a skill shot, your argument ended when it started.... Perhaps if you played anyone not named Teemo you would fair much better?

Kempachi TaichouJul 15, 20163 votes

PS: I think this is the first time I ever down voted anyone... smh

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

ps who cares if i play as teemo and this was naut i was playing its not like i can dash to the adc with my q i cant magically leap over the cs there bud, when i play teemo i can careless what she does ill just blind the adc and nullify his damage.

Kempachi TaichouJul 15, 20161 votes

Naut has a free stun on his AA, how is Leo a problem for you? I'd beg her to E-in and then Id CC her out of the game...

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

i have to be in range meanwhile getting poked and walking through cs.... im really not sure how your not understanding how strong leo is

Kempachi TaichouJul 15, 20161 votes

You should go study, summer school sucks, and you shouldn't waste anymore energy on this game...

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

your mad that you know im right

Kempachi TaichouJul 15, 20161 votes

I'm mad at myself for feed the troll...

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

its funny your not disagreeing with me. How is my point trolling.....

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just troll. All the made up arguments of points of strength... undermining every other melee supports strength. saying her E is basically Maokai root. I think this guy just lost to Leona because he turret dived her and died and she lived. I too got sucked into the troll.

EndlessSorcererJul 15, 20163 votes

Naut has a free stun on his AA

Snare, not stun.

BLYAT moon AkaliJul 15, 20162 votes

you're the first person ever to say leona E was OP. holy shit, what's next? nunu?

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

it is op, she can straight jump to you, with little consequence. braum thresh naut blitz have to dodge cs to grab u. if ur good at sitting bhinbd cs you pretty much make them ineffective

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

Nautilus can straight up ult you from behind minions. Thresh can Flay (his E if you're not familiar) through minions.

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

okay and thats at 6... thresh has to be in range and hope he doesnt miss but that still doesnt do anything... meanwhile leo will still just w eq and watch your adc pretty much get bursted and cc to hell while you flay ....

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

Her E is just a tiny bit faster than Thresh Q (Thresh Q: 1900 Leona E: 2000). It's avoidable. She's an early lane bully... sure, but if she falls behind even a little (as a low income, low XP champ usually does) she can be utterly useless... as she's under leveled and not enough tanky stats.

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

she will always be more useful then trhesh or blitz ... even with what you say she still can A jump staright to people B still can ult who ever when ever... Thresh and blitz and naut has to A still grab people and dodge cs B sure naut can ult a single person to leos whoel team.... but whats the point when the cd is really long and its not like it knocks you up and back just up for a little stun.....

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

Lol no she won't. Thresh can always hook. Thresh can disengage with his ult. Thresh is far more disruptive than Leona. Leona still has to A hit her E. Her ult only slows unless you hit a very smell circle. If the hole team is stunned by Leona... then you (i assume you were the victum of the team wide stun) don't understand how to not stack. Leona can miss her ult. Nautilus cannot.

lol I'm done. You're just upset that Leona stomped you and you think she's the best support (she isn't). You're just making up arbitrary points of strength (omg leona has a range aoe that can maybe stun!... it can miss? Well nautilus' ult is just a longer cooldown)

tldr; stay mad bro.

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

just proving points why she is stronger then all the other tank supps in the game and your mad you cant prove otehr wise

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

I'm not mad. You just don't know how to listen. You're just mad that you lost a game to a support. Stay in Silver. All the points you make are just rediculous... and anyone with any real skill at the game just shake their head thinking... wtf is this nonsense. I don't have the time nor inclination to dumb it down enough to explain it to you how you're utterly wrong... because why waste my breath. You'll probably just come back with "WELL SHE WEARS A SHIELD!" as a retort... hre W adds a 'lot' of tanky stats? No, Rammus' ability adds a lot of tanky stats. Leona's does not.

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

i climbed to gold from bronze 5 then realized people in gold are worse then bronze players. yet your not disagreeing with me nor saying anything but minute points

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

Well, at least I'm in good company here... as that's exactly what you're doing. If you were in gold, it sure does not sound like it. Plus anyone can say anything on th eboards. For instance, I'm a Challenger player! Point is... you're in silver now... with like 700 games. Sounds liek that's where you're staying.

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

well having people troll was worse in gold then i ever had in silver or bronze by any thing. my mmr was 1800, so it wasnt high silver or low gold..... so kennen going ad top lane and wonders why we lose or adc running down lane dying when i was omw back to lane, or panth getting raped by teemo. yes thats def the supps fault..... or me feeding my laners when i was jungle 5 kills top and mid and we lsoe thats my fault i take it as well hmmmmm or lb going ad in mid lane thats again my fault or having a jungle cait thats again my fault i take it

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

nunus ult is strongest in the game sooooo

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

How is her E not a skill shot? It IS a skill shot... The part where she's throwing out her sword? That's the skill shot part. If it lands, then she dashes to you (read the IF) Alistar is not all or nothing. His pulverize doesn't have to be all in. He can headbutt away. Braum can use his Q from range to start getting stacks... he doesn't need to be in. Trundle doesn't have to go all in.

Leona ALREADY has to think about her distance to the ADC when going in. Did you just get stomped by a Leona and thus think she's so OP because that's the only way she can beat you?

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

if you increased the range more she would really have to think about what she is doing. this may seem liek a buff but it really isnt becuase the q stun would wear off if say she ed you at max range. here is the thing she ignores all cs.... braum has to dodge cs to hit his q so what you said is pointless...

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

No it wasn't pointless. You were saying 'omg all tank supports have to go in!' Those points were purely contradicting your point. They don't. Braum doesn't. Thresh doesn't (he builds tanky). Alistar doesn't. Also having to avoid minions for a skill shot does not mean that you have to go all in.

EDIT: I guarantee you increasing her E range is PURELY buff... It adds no additional thought. It simply let's her catch you when you're fleeing so much easier. She can still reach you with that buff when she could reach you now. It just means that she can engage from further if it's a good idea. It's the same as it is now. The questions you ask yourself are the same as they are now. "Will I be too far from my ADC or jungle if I E now?"

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

no thats not what i was saying is people will just say well leo is all or nothing champ... i was saying that she has a huge advantage over every other tank supp by a huge margin.

Chamuel85Jul 15, 20161 votes

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.... any tank supp is all or nothing minus blitz

This is factually false is what I'm saying. Also she doesn't really have a huge advantage over any tank support. If she falls behind. She's useless as she dies too easy (aka her ultimate is no Alistar ultimate). She can only go in where tons of melee supports can get back out (Braum, Nautilus (Q to a wall if you didn't know), Alistar can headbutt you away).

khorneyJul 15, 20161 votes

her w adds a lot of defense and she still can cc anyone and still jump through cs..... naut braum thresh blitz cant do that... sure braum can ult through people but good job on that one. increasign range on e would put her really far away from her whole team it may seem liek a buff but decreasing it would help her even more increasing the range would really make her think twice about going in .... like let me explain if your at mid turret then she es to the top part of bush by there turret becuase of the raneg what would you say..... ohh wait wtf leo why did you go in ... well becuase of the distance on her e made her jump that far and ohh wait the stun off her q is worn off already hmmmmm