Why would anyone pick Warwick...

Lugg·Jun 6, 2015·5 votes·354 views

... when Vi was available? Honestly, their kits are very similar but ALL of Vi's abilities are better than Warwicks. Warwick has 1 damage ability. Vi has 3. Their ults are single target lockdowns, but Vi's is much better. Warwick has lifesteal, but doesn't make him as tanky as Vi. Vi can even gank better pre 6. I can't think of any area where he is better than her except maybe for the first clear in the jungle.

Either Vi needs nerfing or WW needs some love. I think they should rework his passive and E by switching them. WW passive could let him know when low health enemies are nearby and speed up his pursuit to them and his E could be lifesteal that he can level up.

I would like to hear if anyone thinks this assessment is right.

16 Comments

LuggJun 6, 20152 votes

I love the downvote with no reply.

Sir YamazukiJun 6, 20151 votes

Warwick is actually stronger and can actually gank at level 3, but if you can win more often with Vi, then just pick Vi. I have't played either much this season, but previously I had lost all my Vi games while winning over 80% of my Warwick games.

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

Vi's ganks are way stronger at level 3 than WWs. Not sure where you are getting that.

3TWarriorJun 6, 20151 votes

warwick hits for %based damage and gets really tanky. He's not very viable in this current meta because of his range, but WW can heal for 100% of the damage he does if he has spell vamp and 120% with Spirit Visage

keep your ap high and suddenly you heal for like 500 or more every 3 seconds

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

The problem with him is that you have to build AP if you want good Q damage and lifesteal or AD if you want your ult to do damage. It's hard to build both.

WarlockLawJun 6, 20151 votes

They fill very different play styles while working somewhat similarly. Both will kill a carry if left unchecked however warwick does this via an ult that while outright kill somebody while vi actually has to follow up with her kit. Also warwick has much greater sustain with his passice, q and generally builds more life steal than vi. Warwick is bad because of nerfs to his mana sustain, dps and itemization. Riot isn't very likely to buff him any time soon as they are planning a rework particularly on his ult.

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

Unless they are below 50% health, WW ult will not kill them. WW and Vi ults do almost the exact same damage.

I am glad to hear they plan on working on him, he needs some love.

WarlockLawJun 6, 20151 votes

When I play warwick I almost always build devour, botrk, and wits end and with those three items even without being particularly farmed I can 100-25 adcs with my full ult then q botrk them for the rest

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

With those items your are pretty much late game. If that happens, the ADC will build a defensive item and your damage will go WAY down after that.

arc95Jun 6, 20151 votes

more damage abilities =/= better champ... also his q and r do damage and his w increases his dps...so more than "1 damage ability" also Vi's denting blow increases every 3rd AA(on the same target) damage and lowers armor meaning the enemy will take more damage so Vi has 4 "damaging abilities"

2)WW's has the better "lock-down" i.e. he suppresses Vi just knocks up <---one way hes better

WW has better utility... buffs allies attack speed and reveals low health enemies(also receives MS buff from E) <---another way hes better

that being said I think Vi is better right now but simply because of Meta... Tank junglers meta is in right now and that favors Vi over WW IMO

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

His R is WAY inferior to Vi's. They do similar damage, but you can QSS out of WWs, you can't out of a knockup.

Warwicks W is a great AS steroid for him and the team, but Vi's W gives her % health damage AND AS bonus. So I would take hers any day over WW.

Plus Vi is WAY more mobile than WW. She can dash through walls. WW can't. His E gives a MS buff, but it is honestly worthless most of the time due to the insane mobility most champs have now. They need to buff up his MS big time.

arc95Jun 6, 20151 votes

like i said Vi is the better champ ATM... but you post was really biased and flawed

also i didnt say his ult was better(it all depends on the situation its used) i said his lockdown from the ult was better i.e i think a long suppress is better than a knockup... and to outright say an ability is better(WW E Vi W) is kinda flawed logic a lot more than basic stats play into it... team comps, builds, team strategies etc.

lets say your team runs duo adc(done occasionally in pro play) that AS steroid is gonna be massively more powerful that Vi's W becasue that extra damage your adc's will lay down will out do anything that w can...or if Vi's enemy team doesnt have any beefy tanks that w isnt gonna be as effective, conversely; if WW's team is all burst based and has little dps/AA damage his AS buff will be pretty useless and if Vi enemy team is full of tanks that W is going to be considerably stronger/ more effective

the tank meta suits Vi well shes a strong tank killer, and a strong tank... WW on the other hand not so much so Vi being better once again comes from meta not being an outright better champion kit wise they're pretty even

LuggJun 6, 20151 votes

I don't see how my post is biased and flawed. I just stated what the numbers say and what I have seen in games.

Vi is still picked in competitive play. When is the last time you saw ANY pro pick WW? It doesn't just have to do with the tank meta, because WW can be built pretty tanky.