Those PBE changes will not help Evelynn, her charm needs to be reimagined as well as other changes

Darth Sidiouss··3 votes·535 views

Labeling her as an assassin is just plain laughable she has no decent base movement speed, no real gap closer, escape funneled into ult. PBE changes as of now are no where near solving her problem, her problem is she approaches situations like an assassin, her kit fools you into thinking your playing an assassin but in reality plays out nothing more than a poor mans Ahri.

What she needs is her map pressure again the speed she had before was what made her such a good jungler before in the right hands "to be at places on time". She cant take any opportunities that arise in the jungle compared to other junglers even still underwhelming post lvl 6. She is useless as a jungler before you if u camped someone you could really push in the wave and then pop E on a minion and shred towers for a bit, this new Eve has terrible wave clear its a waste of time to even push in any wave cause shes so damn bad at it.

What assassin is predictable? do assassins scream they are gonna get you? do they let you know and let you gather your thoughts as they make way towards you?

This is where her charm completely fails its waaaaaay too predictable and a few brain cells later you have a way to work around her charm. This is how it should work ..

When you first land the charm it should be anonymous to the enemy team as a whole, pressing charm should instead put Eve into a state of "lust" or something then after the hormones to kill arise, her next strike charms whatever she strikes. Nerf the base damage if you have too and remove the MR shred and shift it to her hate spikes. Each hate spike stacking should shred MR by % think Garen E with armor shred passive. This would make her team fighting more impactful as she contributes to reliable MR shred in the fray.

Now lets discuss the passive as of now it makes no sense at all, for those who didn't know old Eve had one of the highest HP regen in the game. She now has a baby warmogs passive which then makes me wonder again what exactly that has to do with being an "assassin" she should have speed to get around the map, and her base HP regen should be buffed to nearly the spot she was at pre rework.

The fact that she cannot go over a wall till lvl 6 (which would only be an emergency escape) and cannot stealth till lvl 6 should completely justify that she needs to be capable of more map pressure early on.

With the changes above it would be ideal to then lower the mana cost of Q a small bit and allow 4 spikes per recast instead of 3. And if shes then too strong you shave damage off of her ultimate so her full spell rotation is more balanced and compensated.

Lastly her ultimate shouldn't reactivate stealth rather her passive should allow her to renter stealth upon kills. She was always a high risk, high reward champion that pumps adrenaline.

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Dunal7 votes

I swear that if the whole community had their way, every champion would have no weaknesses.

Suck it up; each champ needs some things they're bad at. An environment where every champ is at least decent in all areas actually makes things worse by making numbers more important than niche/drafting.

Eve's charm is risk/reward. After future buffs she will likely be able to use the slow more consistently during ganks rather than relying on the charm. Charm is the best CC in the entire game but a slow is useful too -- and more than what the old Eve had outside of ulti. Charm is meant for situations where she can get away with telegraphing her approach when the enemy is left in a bad position. Don't be foolish and assume you should use it all the time. If you want the surprise factor, then you get a slow instead. God forbid.

Even if she's worse than before in some areas she's also better in others. Accept the compromise unless you want her numbers to be bad because of way too much flexibility. The changes on PBE are a good direction.

Abibyama2 votes

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I swear that if the whole community had their way, every champion would have no weaknesses.

Skarner juggernaut rework on PBE: wtf he’s weak as shit

Rito buffs him

Release rework: 75% winrate or something close.

Darth Sidiouss1 votes

Landing the charm is impractical if the desired target gets surrounded by allies they literally just have to hug and you have no charm, now what other tool you have to engage? nothing at least shaco can set up some jack in boxes, any other assassin has a way to reliably jump over a wall or something without even using there ult..

The old eve beats her in every way, right now early game mostly due to the fact you DO have map pressure and you DO have stealth pre 6 you actually could take opportunities and punish the opposing jungler when he makes mistakes. The new Eve also lags behind just like old eve if you die in the jungle or fuck up its still just as punishing she doesn't really scale that hard into the late game compared to pre rework.

The best CC is the CC you can reliably land , most of time being a point and click stun or something thats **guaranteed to hit **, a silly charm that's predictable becomes more and more useless the more the higher tier player your dealing with, i tried her in low gold MMR and they were smart enough to hug any desired targets i wanted so imagine in plat, diamond , masters, etc shes not idiot proof by far she fails as an assassin / jungler.

Yordanik1 votes

what?

Ahris1 votes

I dont think you can compare Eve to Ahri as Ahri is pretty garbage as well.

ThunderSkelett1 votes

Have you played on the pbe?

Enomot1 votes

what i would like to know if why do minion hits reset ur stealth cool down and knock u out of stealth? retarded change

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