Don't let auto-fill break another season. Replace primary/secondary roles with a priority list.

Yenn·Oct 29, 2019·2 votes·1,605 views

Let us prioritize the roles we want to play, so the first and second priority would be equivalent to the current primary and secondary roles. If matchmaking absolutely has to fill a role, give it to the player who has that role as the highest priority.

Alternatively, let us optionally pick more than two roles, to at least reduce the chance of someone who can't play the role being filled into a role that we can play.

This system is a massive clusterfuck, especially at Diamond, where top or jungle are consistently auto-filled for at least one team. It shouldn't be allowed to continue into the next season in this state.

9 Comments

Fierce DeityOct 29, 20194 votes

Should just be able to opt out of autofill in return for longer que times. Let the player make the decision. Id rather que for 5-10 minutes and get my position.

Posui GartOct 29, 20192 votes

Autofill itself is unavoidable. Shitty "you picked primary mid and that guy picked primary jungle? Lets autofill you to jungle and that guy to mid" autofills should, however, be dealt with. At least let us know who is autofilled at pick phase and what roles he picked as primary/secondary

SkínsOct 29, 20191 votes

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Autofill itself is unavoidable. Shitty "you picked primary mid and that guy picked primary jungle? Lets autofill you to jungle and that guy to mid" autofills should, however, be dealt with. At least let us know who is autofilled at pick phase and what roles he picked as primary/secondary

This needs to happen. More than anything, this needs to happen. I generally play every role at the same level (or about the same level at least), except jungle. I am really bad at it. I'm currently ranked Gold 2, and I believe my jungling skills are at Bronze 1 - Silver 4 level. I can fill any other role though without an issue.

So if I get the role "BOT", which I tend to main these days, and I can see in the client champ select that our TOP laner got autofilled, and his main roles are "BOT/MID", I can offer him a swap.

It's very likely that we'll do better as a team in this scenario, since I am, despite it not being my main role, a pretty good top laner and can definitely perform on the level that I am playing at that moment. But he may not. He may not have a clue as in how to play the top lane. And sure, you can argue that "If he cant play it he should just say it", but some people dont have the confidence to do that; or they just dont want to force others into filling for them.

Regardless, if we swap lanes, we both play what we're comfortable on, we both have a positive attitude of teamwork, and we are likely to win.

If we dont swap lanes, hes likely getting stomped on top and resulting in a negative attitude, blaming the autofill, and other people blaming him.

This NEEDS to happen before S10 goes live. EVER.

Regards, Skíns

Posui GartOct 29, 20192 votes

The reason why I feel this won't be added is because people will dodge a lot more games with this. You are in ranked and your jungler is autofilled? Dodge Your midlaner is an autofilled support howering Yasuo? Dodge And if its not a dodge, then its an "Ok we already lost, our autofilled jungler died once, ff15 go next, gg rito" game

SkínsOct 29, 20191 votes

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The reason why I feel this won't be added is because people will dodge a lot more games with this. You are in ranked and your jungler is autofilled? Dodge Your midlaner is an autofilled support howering Yasuo? Dodge And if its not a dodge, then its an "Ok we already lost, our autofilled jungler died once, ff15 go next, gg rito" game

That's not a problem though is it? Dodging has been a feature of LoL for a while now, and RIOT are clear on the matter that they encourage it. They could penalise dodging, but they chose not to, because they want to give the players an option to get out of the game if they feel like they lost in champ select. Dont forget it does come at a price however (no matter how minor)!

So, if people will dodge more games, that's on them. They're the ones who will be penalised for it, and they are allowed to do it. Nobody blames them.

Look at the bigger picture here; the games will start with more positivity and teamwork already established before the game even starts.

People are less likely to troll / feed / throw / grief / flame if they feel connected to their teammates. And frankly, helping a struggling person who got autofilled by giving him your role does just that - like it or not, it connects the team. It makes the team feel like there actually is a team spirit to it. Like you have a common goal. And that's what LoL really lacks right now.

And honestly, it gives you less reasons to dodge. Troll picks happen now mostly cause of autofill. What Im proposing actually negates that, as it gives you the option to switch lanes with the person who got autofilled without the toxicity. There's a major difference if I see that our support got autofilled and I offer him to go mid cause I see its his main role: "Hey mate, you wanna go mid? I can supp if you want", and our support getting autofilled and instantly going "mid or feed" in chat.

Get it? If the latter happens I wont give him my lane. Cause Im stubborn. And hes an asshole. I choose not to reward assholes, even if I lose some LP for it.

And thats the problem right there. So many times I've soft-inted games cause I refuse to cooperate with and "carry" the toxic spoiled kids who think can do whatever they please in an online community. Most of these could be avoided with small features like knowing who got autofilled.

Maybe it's just me thinking this way, but I feel like I've more than proved my point; having these type of features would actually result in less toxic behaviour and more teamwork and cooperation.

Regards, Skíns

haaaaaaalpOct 29, 20191 votes

Won't do anything as long as we have one rank for all 5 roles. Players need a different rank to reflect how they play in each role, otherwise autofill will always be a problem.